Typical disingeous reply from Beretta. They won't give this retailer an account on any basis. If you are up front Beretta how about disclosing how many new independent accounts you have "awarded " in the last three years.
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Typical disingeous reply from Beretta. They won't give this retailer an account on any basis. If you are up front Beretta how about disclosing how many new independent accounts you have "awarded " in the last three years.
Ok, thanks ChrisQuote:
Originally Posted by ChrisW
That then leaves me with the question.
Can any legitimate firearms retailer in New Zealand open an account with you , if, they so choose?
Lol I love all things hunting, fishing & shooting. I was literally browsing the firearms section of the forum and saw "Tikka t1X - Beretta NZ sales policy" and thought to myself "what the hell is anyone on here doing talking about something like that like they have any clue..there is no "policy" and we haven't even taken it to market yet".Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
So I had a read and felt it obliged to set the record straight.
Believe me I don't spend my weekends looking online for anyone slagging off Beretta...and no one directed me to this thread. I have been known to spend time browsing various forums of interest though :)
To be honest im not sure what the requirements are. I have nothing to do with sales or accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by jakewire
If this line of questioning relates to any specific shop or retailer, PM me with details and I can look into it.
Any idea if they will bring out a all weather Tx1 in stainless steel?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisW
It's not a retailers decision on who can or can't open am account... Suppliers have very valid reasons to not let every man and his dog have an account e.g. bad credit, not enough volume, irresponsible pricing etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by jakewire
But you have owned one, eh Carlsen, and extolled its virtues until you found that the trigger mechanism required oiling...? :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlsen Highway
No Chris is doesn't relate to any specific retailer.
The question was purely that you pipped my interest then when you said "Obviously its not possible for "each and every firearm retailer in the country" to have a valid account"
I wondered , Why not?
If I am say a legitimate firearms retailer [ Which I am not] why would I not be able to open an account and sell Tikka, Sako, Beretta shotguns and other Beretta merchandise if I thought here was a market in my area?
That's all.
By coming on, and, as above I appreciate that you have, you will possibly get a number of questions, some good, some not so good.:)
I am not aware of any current plans for this. If it were to happen it would be some time away - production on the new T1X is going to be stretched for some time, so I cant imagine a new model getting thrown into the mix so early in the peace.Quote:
Originally Posted by tikka
Yes, yes , yes PerazziSc3, let assume please that we are simply talking about a retailer of good standing but not a major chain or large shopQuote:
Originally Posted by PerazziSC3
All I wish to know is , is there any reason that any small store not be able to open an account and sell Beretta products, like have a Tikka, Sako or two on the shelf but also have access to more if a customer wanted .
Tell me why a supplier would stop a retailer from stocking the product as long as the account was paid when it is due, regardless of how many sakos etc go out his door.?
Sure no probs :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jakewire
I only meant it as a generalization that there are many sporting goods stores in NZ and some have probably never even heard of Beretta so its not feasible to expect them all to keep and maintain an account.
To answer your question, If you were a legitimate firearms retailer, who pays their bills etc then I can see no reason you would not be allowed to open an account. I don't know all the requirements - but i would have something to say about it if we turned legitimate prospective customers away.
I am heartened to see your ancient memory has retained such a detail. That aspect is almost true, but omits all the other things I didn't like about it, which are legion. If the chap from Beretta expresses any interest I can develop this thread hijack at great and tiresome length.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Thanks for your reply Chris. you must be new there. I await your further enquiries of your colleagues with interest. However don't waste your time with Accounts etc - ask the GM.
To Sidney etc - you guys need to think about things more, I have a long involvement in supply chains. In NZ we pay extra for a range of stuff e.g. fuel and building materials so if you want to be reamed like those sectorsfo yo consumers for your firearms purchases then I'd say you are the nieve ones. Our local H&F is fine and I buy stuff there. However it's my choice where I spend my $ .
The ‘retard’ is strong with this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tentman
Perhaps you should engage your brain before your mouth/fingers for a change?
It’s worth a try at least.
Do all the old model Tikka rifles suddenly stop working when a new model is released?
Is that why there's such a panic about availability of the T1X? Is my T3 going to seize?
@systolic
T1 is a new line of rimfire 22lr and 17hmr. Not a centrefire if that's what your thinking.
Yes your T3 is going to seize in mid March, I'll give you $50 for it.
Don't the old ones go up in price when they seize up ?
yeup, scrap valueQuote:
Originally Posted by jakewire
What would you have me ask my boss?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tentman
Sorry to say, but I will, this is not a very productive discussion.
But entertaining it is!! Im just here to watch the sour old buggers hate on my tikka :thumbsup: In all seriousness, I really admire the amount of time spent and effort exerted to spread this weak anti tikka propaganda. We owe a lot to these guys actually.. No one wants a firearm manufacturing monopoly, as we can all agree, the variety is beautiful. So here's to all the upstream swimmers who settle for second best! :P LONG LIVE THE MIGHTY TIKKAQuote:
Originally Posted by KiwiinSeattle
Tikka are just second rate sako for the poor nothing mighty about themQuote:
Originally Posted by TheJanitar
Yes it is, Look at what's been achieved.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiwiinSeattle
1- A Beretta company rep has saw, joined , answered, and may stay for a while
2- According to him there seems to be no barrier to a, lets call it a fit and proper independent retailer to have an account and sell Beretta NZ gear, this is of course ongoing.
3- Older Tikka T3's will seize up in March and will be worth less or more depending who your talking to.
5- Carlson has again come in , disrupted the thread, but this time only one person has gone along with the hijack.
6 - You have read it all the way through and formed an opinion, which after all is what a forum is about.
If my production meetings at work produced as much value as this thread we would have then twice a day instead of just in the mornings.
This is fun, got through one beer on this thread alone.
only one? so entertaining you need at least 2Quote:
Originally Posted by 300CALMAN
Tikkas are the Toyota Corolla of the rifle world. Reliable, conformist, bland.
Hehe notice my sarcasm. they are definitely second rate to a sako! But I would be more inclined to say they are for those seeking value, not necessarily the poor. (think howa or cheap Remingtons). Just stirring the pot.. :P I've handled many finer a gun than the mighty tikka. I just can't afford any of em :XD:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy79
@TheJanitar.
I have owned many fine Tikka's, M55, M590, 595, 695 among them.
In it's day the M55, apart from the factory offered mag, was the equivalent of any Sako.
Which is probably why they bought them out.
I own a Tikka...not a Bretikka...ie pre take over model. Nothing wrong with..a little on the heavy side maybe but they always were.
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The other weekend, 2 shots from a tikka (6.5 - it was 93 , it needed 95, clicks on the scope. ), and onto 12in. steel at 700, 30 shots later the sako 338LM hit it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy79
I fully agree that the supply chain $ model is screwed, but the end product is pretty good.
Well Mr supply chain expert, how come you don't understand about agency, business strategy, exclusivity, bulk supply agreements and distributor choice? Of course that is discounting the possibility that your dealer mate may not actually have an account and may be casting blame so that he doesn't embarrass himself?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tentman
Bunnings will be selling them shortly! Hopefully your trade discount will apply:cool:
At least the Remington’s I own shoot accurately out of the box and don’t seem Fussy on ammo?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJanitar
Savage axis with a worse magazine? :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy79
That's why you can afford to put a 4k scope on a tikka!Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy79
Me thinks a clever firearms buyer buys tikkas!
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@Paddy79 my POS tikka bushpig shoots a 10 shot 0.6" group. Why pay over twice the price for a gun that i doubt could shoot better only to say i own a sako?
I think admin need to change the forum rules to no Politics, Religion and please please please please DON'T mention Tikka rifles.
Because there is more to a rifle than just accuracy. Besides, there are plenty of people out there to whom a few grand is neither here nor there. If someone wants a Sako for it's quality or whatever reason and they can afford it then good on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by superdiver
I can't stand it any longer, my feelings are hurt and I feel betrayed! I don't want to brag but I can shoot fifteen inch groups with my tikka at twenty meters..... :yaeh am not durnk: @Biggun708 is my witness. Tikkas are the greatest firearms ever produced and those who think otherwise are being ignorant. Now, since I was always taught from a young age to share my toys with the lesser privileged - i am offering to trade my tikka t3x with your sako 75 and $500 cash my way. Be quick, don't miss this once in a lifetime opportunity. PM me with your name and number to go in the draw. Winner to be announced tomorrow, midday!
I was starting to think this was turning into the *other* forum where the only acceptable rifle is a T3 with a VX1 on it and if you dare suggest that anything else might be better (or better value) you get shouted at.Quote:
Originally Posted by 300CALMAN