hi AKKAR the new semi auto bought in by h&f are all called ALTAY the older ones were called KOMANCHI FOR THE 20G AND THE 28G AND THE 12G were called APACHE but in some markets they are called CHURCHILLS and appear to be the same gun a bit strange as they call there o/u CHURCHILLS overseas Don't get confused with some second hand semis branded CHURCHILLS these were marketed by KANSSAR in the usa and there are the odd one in nz the first ones were made by FRANCHI and then they went to NIKKO in japan to make them .I currently have 3 akkars a 28g komanchi a 28g altay and a 12g altay marine .THE 28G komanchi is not as well made as the newer 28g altay but so far I havet had any problems time will tell
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