Vortex Viper problem

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19-06-2018, 10:12 PM
cambo

Vortex Viper problem

The Viper 6.5-20x50 scope I have on my 223 has developed an issue I'm not sure if anyone had something similar.
Has a fuzziness like heat mirage when looking through it.
Brand new scope, brand new Tikka, brand new DPT suppressor.
First noticed it after a few shots when sighting the rifle in and thought it was heat mirage. Only after 3 shots it was really hard to look through it. I'd leave it for 15-20mins to get cold before firing anymore.
Last weekend at a steel shoot, it got to the point where I didn't have to fire the rifle and the vision was very hazy. Barrel, suppressor and scope were cold to touch. The day was cold but fine.
Anyone struck this fault or something similar?

I've been in contact with Vortex and they're replacing in under warranty.
Just interested if anyone has come across this before.
19-06-2018, 10:31 PM
Ryan_Songhurst

You sure it's not just a normal "looking through a coke bottle full of muddy water" Vortex?
19-06-2018, 10:35 PM
ZQLewis

Reading online reviews it would appear that some of the cheaper high magnification scopes (top end over 20x subject to $ range) start to get hazy at the top end. ie $$'s saved in the lenses and alignment start showing up as optical errors, hazing etc.
Not suggesting Vortex are guilty of this as I have not used any of their product.
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19-06-2018, 10:50 PM
Happy

Had quite a few of those. iNMHO anything in vortex above 16x is crap. Below all good I’m not talking about 1 or 2 scopes either
How did I fix it. Easy NXS
19-06-2018, 11:45 PM
blair993

did changing the zoom change any thing?
19-06-2018, 11:55 PM
cambo

Quote:

Originally Posted by blair993

did changing the zoom change any thing?

It was definitely worse when zoomed out. Still bad down the lower magnification range though.
Strange how it seemed OK for a bit then it got worse as you looked through it when spotting for others.
Had a few guys look through it and they said the same.
Vortex very prompt reply and said they'd replace straight away so I suspect they've had just a few
20-06-2018, 07:47 AM
northdude

Get a Nikko stirling :)
20-06-2018, 08:22 AM
BRADS

Quote:

Originally Posted by northdude

Get a Nikko stirling :)

That's a few steps above a vortex

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20-06-2018, 09:07 AM
northdude

Don't seem to have as many problems given they are a budget scope
20-06-2018, 10:02 AM
rambo-6mmrem

Bloody @northdude lol
Have I got a rifle here for you 222 mae suppressor just need a nikko shitter and you won’t be able to resist lol
20-06-2018, 10:14 AM
chainsaw

take the scope back to shop and get it replaced
20-06-2018, 10:46 AM
northdude

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambo-6mmrem

Bloody @northdude lol
Have I got a rifle here for you 222 mae suppressor just need a nikko shitter and you won’t be able to resist lol

Tell me more
20-06-2018, 11:03 AM
Gibo

Sure it wasn't the suppressor causing haze? Blocking view? Laugh if it was :)
20-06-2018, 11:10 AM
northdude

Or the scope cap is still on :)
20-06-2018, 01:19 PM
Kiwi Greg

Quote:

Originally Posted by northdude

Or the scope cap is still on :)

Would that make a noticeable difference though ???
20-06-2018, 02:13 PM
northdude

Possibly if the caps got that protective clear plastic stuck to it to stop damage during transit
20-06-2018, 08:19 PM
cambo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibo

Sure it wasn't the suppressor causing haze? Blocking view? Laugh if it was :)

Nope. Wasn't suppressor. It was all hazy even when the rifle hadn't been fired. Barrel and suppressor were cold to touch
20-06-2018, 08:25 PM
cambo

Quote:

Originally Posted by chainsaw

take the scope back to shop and get it replaced

Yup, Vortex are replacing it under warranty
20-06-2018, 08:26 PM
cambo

Quote:

Originally Posted by northdude

Possibly if the caps got that protective clear plastic stuck to it to stop damage during transit

Wish it was. Would've made it an easy fix. Unfortunately its an internal problem.
20-06-2018, 08:35 PM
Dermastor

Wow you guys sure have it in for Vortex. I have a heap of them from a cheap Diamondback to the AMG and they perform very well. Maybe for the first time in my life I am lucky with something. It does tick me off when people comment with phrases like "I have heard or I read on a forum..." Vortex have been a great supporter of long range shooting events in NZ for several years such as NZ Mountain Challenge and Alpine Long Range. I am not saying their scopes are perfect but they do have a brilliant warrantee. This lets give them crap every time someone has an issue is childish and sure doesn't reflect well on us all. A little respect for a company that supports out sport wouldn't go amiss. There I feel better.
20-06-2018, 09:46 PM
Konev

They are just jealous.
20-06-2018, 11:24 PM
Cowboy06

Well said dermastor. They support a lot of shooting events. Quite often $7000+ on the prize tables. I have had a fault with an early gen1 pst but it was more a design fault and they allowed me to upgrade to the gen2 model. I have a few others an in each of the price ranges they perform well.
20-06-2018, 11:26 PM
Bagheera

https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....problem-25797/
20-06-2018, 11:30 PM
Cowboy06

Year my ior broke internally but because it isn’t in USA sorry no warranty. Must pay $1000 to get repaired in aussi. Was 7 years old.
21-06-2018, 07:44 AM
northdude

Every ones allowed an opinion here
21-06-2018, 08:02 AM
BRADS

Quote:

Originally Posted by northdude

Every ones allowed an opinion here

Very true.
We have had the vortex reps here shooting before with a car load of reasonable gear to be fair and nice blokes.
But I've seen more animals lost at dusk with vortex glass than any other and more brake than any other brand, so whenever a newbie asks what to buy with there hard earned $ I feel it only fair to say anything but vortex.
Theres always someone posting about a broken one on here if that doesn't tell you something....

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21-06-2018, 09:11 AM
Gibo

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambo

Nope. Wasn't suppressor. It was all hazy even when the rifle hadn't been fired. Barrel and suppressor were cold to touch

I didn't mean the heart mirage from the suppressor, I meant the suppressor itself getting in the way of your sight picture, it will look like a haze in the bottom part of the sight picture.
21-06-2018, 09:12 AM
MSL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagheera

https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....problem-25797/

More than two years ago, haha
21-06-2018, 05:32 PM
cambo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibo

I didn't mean the heart mirage from the suppressor, I meant the suppressor itself getting in the way of your sight picture, it will look like a haze in the bottom part of the sight picture.

Oh haha nah not that. Even with the suppressor off it did it so not the supressor
21-06-2018, 05:34 PM
cambo

Yeah I'm not bagging Vortex here. They have been very quick to say they'd replace it.
This scope was originally a prize from a Alpine LR shoot down here which they support.
21-06-2018, 06:08 PM
Gibo

So they put it up as a prize? I guess they nearly got away with it:D
24-06-2018, 07:46 PM
lee308

i had a Viper pst FFP, cant say i even had a chance to work with it much. glass looked okay and dialed fine. but after second time shooting on my 308 with it. parts of the reticle fell off and i had a black dot in my vision. cant get rid of it. So I took it back and got a refund. Never trusted Vortex again. It was $1800. Second Gen. The illumination knob was integrated with the parallax adjustment. it is impossible to use. it rips my thumb trying to turn it on. I didn like the design of it. but for the price, that is what you get. That is why they offer a good warranty because they know the quality control is relied on luck. I had a look online after my one went wrong, there seem to be a lot of them with problems.

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