Thread: WE LOST

Originally Posted by GravelBen

Thats from 2 years, so probably not the same case?

It is a pre-case opinion, these things take a while to get to court, but point taken, some uncertainty there.

I look at it like, the act says a firearm that IS below 762mm in length. Not "could be by doing x,y or z". If your 12.5" AR has a 6" long suppressor hanging off the end, then at that point in time, it does not fit the definition of "is below 762mm".

So essentially what they are hinging their side of the argument on, is how easy it is to get into a state of being below 762mm in length.


So what we need is clear guidance on the easiness threshold. If it can become a pistol in under 5 sec not ok, if it takes a minute, all good?

The idea that a permanently fitted muzzle device is not included is utterly ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Beavis

I look at it like, the act says a firearm that IS below 762mm in length. Not "could be by doing x,y or z". If your 12.5" AR has a 6" long suppressor hanging off the end, then at that point in time, it does not fit the definition of "is below 762mm".

So essentially what they are hinging their side of the argument on, is how easy it is to get into a state of being below 762mm in length.


So what we need is clear guidance on the easiness threshold. If it can become a pistol in under 5 sec not ok, if it takes a minute, all good?

The idea that a permanently fitted muzzle device is not included is utterly ridiculous.

Start using left hand threads.... that may confuse them. Seriously though hacksaw through a barrel wont take much longer than unscrewing something, let a lone a welded/bonded/pinned attachment.

So we can add these rulings to the Police opinion that an AR lower is not considered a firearm if it is them that leaves in on a lawn.......