Long story, but going to replace 3 rifles with one.
Want to go factory and the tikka super varmint is the standard but whether I can get one.
What say oh wise ones?
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Long story, but going to replace 3 rifles with one.
Want to go factory and the tikka super varmint is the standard but whether I can get one.
What say oh wise ones?
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you possibly wont need that tight...its going fast after all.... but shit yeah...you will be back in 22hp savage territory
88 eldms, I reckon a 1-8 ideal!Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
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Wot you gonna shoot with it? The x250 case will sure drive 88s with authority but barrel life will be the casualty- its not gonna last long shooting gongs every weekend. And while we are talking gong shooting, it's possible to outsmart ones self with the 224s, their splash signature is highly dependant on the projectile type, as a for example the Sierra 80s just don't register in grass. Supposedly the Hornardy's tipped options are better. Cheers
Go 1:7" twist for the 88's. You don't need the action length of a Tikka. Even with an 88 seated all the way out it'll be under 2.8". My 22-250ai is built off of a Rem 700 SA and everything fits nicely.
I know Bergara's B14 in 22-250 is a 1:9" twist. Plenty for 69gr - maybe 75gr at a push with the extra speed (I wouldn't count on it though). Others may be catching up by now and releasing faster twists - dunno, haven't researched that far.
Rebarrel perfect
To go Semi factory 1in 8 twist, you have to buy two tikkas. 1 varmint one in 223 1 in 8 twist that you rechamber and use the bolt of a standard 22-250/ 308 bolt face.
But then you end up with a spare 223 bolt and a a barrel action you can t do much with other than sell as parts.
It can be done , but not the cheapest. Going the custom route might be better at the end of the day.
They are doing a 1-8 super varmint in 22-250 in their catalouge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Friwi
Might have to order and wait!
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It will be more a goat/ peacock rifle for those that think they are a safe distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tentman
Got enough gong capable rifles so will whack a ten round p mag in it for mobs of either!
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Yep, thinking that as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelton
Screw on a criterion onto my current 1-14 tikka varmint.
I do like the idea of the super varmint adjustable cheek piece .
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This one here tickles my fancy!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...9b0cdfe56c.jpg
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Wouldn't you be better off with a .243? Barrel life difference would result in a lower overall cost per round fired.
Only problem is they might not send to NZ unless you order like 50. It might have changed now but I went through this exercise myself about 3 years ago.....waited for ages then they came back with that. It may have changed though as they were only doing limited runs for US market back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
A fast twist 22.250 is ideal for NZ, so annoying they don'thave them here. If I had to have 1 rifle it would be that or a 22 Creed.
I ended up doing a 22 Creedmoor on T3 action. Picked up a B14 cheap so might either do another 22 Creedmoor with it or 22.250 gast twist down the track.
A 22 Creed will shoot 88's with a 1:8 due to high revs but a 22.250 I'd think 1:7 better, or drop down to 80's. Also depends on barrel length what speeds get up to.
It's going to be my crossover rifle that covers my 204 223 and my 1-14 22-250.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotbarrels
My 25-06 and 6.5x55 cover the 243 I reckon.
I have actually never owned any thing in 6mm!
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A friend has a Remington heavy barreled 250 coming up for sale complete with Zeiss scope. He used it for head shooting deer while he was commercial Hare shooting. Fired no more than ten boxes of ammo. Super accurate, not quite sure of the exact history but came here with a big wig from Cabelas on a hunting trip to a safari park and has been factory tickled
That will be a bloody nice rifle i bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
What ever I get iwould like the 10 mag capacity as an option.
I know the pmags work well in my 2 short action tikkas so leaning that way.
They are a factory rifle and that is what I stick to these days as never had .much luck with semi custom rifles as always so.ething not perfect!
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1-8 is really a bit slow for 88's, it might work but it may not, 1-7 works, & the 90 A-Tip is an awesome bullet if you want a bit more BC than the 88
You really need a 22 Creedmoor, job done :)
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....eedmoor-89699/
I have heaps of good brass and lots of cheaper stuff I can use when the grass is long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
I will see what plays out flicking these other rifles.
My mate has a hardy 1-7 on his shooting 88g and it's pretty impressive!
Atips are bloody good but prohibitively priced when going through a few of them.
Over 800 goats down next door and getting to the stage of some long range work as getting a bit cunning now!
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My brother has a browning abolt which has been fitted with a ruger m77 barrel (ex 223 reamed to 22-250)
It’s 1-9 twist and shoots like a demon like 1/2” with factory sako ammo
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Plan was to load the 65gn game king… but haven’t bothered so far the sako 55gn soft point has been absolutely smashing stuff
Hes fired 11 shots hunting so far with 11 bang flops like proper no steps taken bang flops
Granted a few of them were head shots but the sholder shots have gone down just as quick
Shots from 10m to 350m
sounds like you should take the 25/06 out for a walk....Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
Sounds like you should rebarrel your current 22-250 job done
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22 Creedmoor would be epic. I found 22-250 wouldn’t stack in an AICS mag if that’s a factor you’d consider.
My Bergara shoots the 75g no problem at allQuote:
Originally Posted by Pommy
sierra make a good light .257 round that would do same job your current 22-250 will still do the job of the other two you are hoping to replace with ease and at no added expense.... it sounds like you are trying to make it creap into replacing the other two as well......
I'm trying to replace a 204 a 223 and a 1-12 22-250.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
I'm thinking the 25-06 as a dedicated thermal rig with quick detach as i know they work when taking them on and of for spotting then shooting.
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understand..but what Im saying is the 22-250 already replaces the 223 and the 204 to some degree.....by going heavier with the 22-250 you are actually stepping into new territory and leaving all three behind......and nipping into 25-06 range...where as if you keep .22-250 as it is you still running moderately cheap rounds (55grn easy to get too and pretty much anything works Vs expensiver heavier pill) and still have the bigger brother cartridges for the other jobs.....or to put it another way...what will the 6.5x55 do if you have a 22-250 throwing 88grn projectiles??? but its your money and you only person who knows what your needs are.
bet you bought 223 as figgured the cheaper rounds were a great idea???
once its gone,your into more costly rounds fullstop...MAYBE running fast twist .223 to chuck heavier projectiles while still being able to handle cheaper bulk amunition might be a financially more sound option????
Ahh, as a serial reloader there I'm not to worried about ammunition .Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
More to the point for Me is the old adage of , beware of the man with one rifle.
It sums up what I'm thinking as far as rationalizing weapons systems you understand and know and use well for my target species.
Really the problem is my safe is running out of room!
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So it is another safe you need to buy before buying another rifle :-)
Beware the man with one rifle.... @andyanimal31 . When was the last time you only had one rifle![emoji23]
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It's like saying to the Mrs, I only had one beer!Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter Al.7mm08
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A .243 in 1-8" or 7" would cover pretty much every current caliber you have.
You can get 58gr vmaxs through to 108gr elds. Still projectiles for less than 50 cents each. I use mine for culling and have shot deer out over 600 yards easy enough so make the 6.5x55 and 25.06 redundant. Then use a smaller projectile for goats and peacocks if you wanted cheap and faster. I use 70gr speer TNT's downloaded for smaller things and at $40 for 100 can't complain.
Some projectiles punch well above their weight and kill extremely well, 105gr targex absolutely hammers deer.
If you wanted something a little different that does nearly the same job, get a 6mm arc in mini action.
Only thing is I have plenty of 22-250 brass and associated reloading gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by TLB
Will use 25-06 for dedicated thermal and my 6.5x55 is part of my soul!
I have never owned anything in 6mm but never say never!
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Yeah I was in the same boat as you last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
223 just wasn't cutting it for night work on deer and everything else I owned had too much recoil and is a pain losing sight of the animal at night.
Was going to go the same route re 22.250 you are contemplating but punched the numbers and it didn't have any benefits whatsoever.
Had no reloading stuff for a .243 either but after talking to a couple of guys on here I thought I would give it a go. Price of re barrelling wasn't super cheap and I didn't want to wreck one of my current rifles if I didn't like it. So I bought the cheapest 1-8" I could find, a Ruger American for $950. Absolutely love it, kills unbelievably well but only with certain projectiles. Many of the cheap 100gr soft points really lacked any kind of authority compared to the .308 or .270 so after some advice on here I tried those targex, exceptional.
Ended up buying a heap of brass off here for a good price and dies aren't all that expensive. Sold on it now, going to upgrade to something a bit nicer in the next 12 months.
I'm hearing ya!
Hopefully got buyers for my 2 sakos and then put my tikka varmint on the market.
Will make a plan after the loot in my hot little hands.
Whatever it will be a stock standard rifle that factory lapua brass availability with ten shot capability
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so ruger american .223 then LMFAO
looking back to when I was meat hunting goats as a teenager...oh how my current 223 would have been wonderful to have had. headshooting them with open sighted .22lr wasnt quite so easy
If I sell all 3 and have to wait for a tikka I probably will buy a ruger american to fill the gap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
À tight twist 22-50 is my poison that I want at the moment.
I just remembered there is my mates howa 243 in the safe but there is something wrong with the trigger as it's super tight.
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sounds like getting that sorted will give you good excuse to have a tootoo with 6mm...just because....you can therefore say the box has been ticked and keep looking for the fast twist 22-250 and meanwhile use the new ruger sounds like win win win to me.
Bergara make hmr 22-250,1:9 twist and would take a 10 rounder. I'm chucking 69 tmks out of a 19" Ruger 22-250, very effective peice of equipment. My kids favourite rifle now and both have dibs on it, boy & girl.
What I do like about 22.250 you can call you shots and hits immediately through scope and move onto engaging next target.
Lapua brass is still quite reasonable priced for 22.250.
Just had a read up about them and they look good.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackson21
I might buy some thing cheapish or second hand till I can get my mitts on that tikka.
The 22=250 is definitely really nice and easy to shoot and spotting your shots easy.
I still have my old faithfull varmint 1-12 so might have to hang on to that yet
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Did your mate try to lighten the 243 Howas trigger by any chance?
Take it of and send it my way? Just the trigger will do.