Swarovski 7x42 SLC since 1987.
Been serviced twice and replaced one rubber eyepiece all free of charge by agents.
Buy quality and you won’t regret it, your eyes will thank you
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Swarovski 7x42 SLC since 1987.
Been serviced twice and replaced one rubber eyepiece all free of charge by agents.
Buy quality and you won’t regret it, your eyes will thank you
My advice:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beetroot
1. If you are not in a hurry, wait until the next Sika show. Go to the show and try every pair of bino's you can. You will be surprised at which ones you like best (I was, and it wasn't the $2k euro's)
2. Glass for glass, buy what best fits you and your face. The bino's I like and have purchased, my brother hates because they don't fit his face. The best glass in the world is of little use if its not comfortable when you are using them for hours at a time. Plus, poor fitting bino's will prevent you maximising the 'sweet spot' in the eye box, and this will result in loss of image clarity etc.
3. I find in interesting that no one here has recommended Leupold. When I did the rounds at Sika a couple of years ago, in the sub $1k glass and sub $500 glass, the best bino's for me were the Leupold's. Second best was the Nikon.
Personally I have Lecia 10x25's as my mini sized carry everywhere glass, they were $1k at the time of purchase and I haven't seen anything that will beat them in this compact size.
For my bigger glass (read more comfortable for longer viewing when sitting on a mound shooting rabbits but I wouldn't wand to carry them too far) I have a pair of Leupold 10x50HD BX-3's which cost me $656.76 landed https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....eck-out-34312/ Stunning bit of kit for the price.
Swarovski EL 10x42
They do the job.
Slightly off topic but a rep for a Euro glass company once told me they always tried to get customers to buy their binos before they a bought a scope from them. That way they could spot animals but when they looked through their scope for a shot, they would realise they also needed a better scope.
Back to bino choice. If you carry a spotting scope then lower magnification/wider FOV is probably a better choice as you can use the spotter for the finer detail. Also the distance you expect to be looking for game (whether it is 300m across to a scrubby farm face or 1200m out on the tops) can make a difference to what works best for you.
Swaro EL Range 8x42. For what hunting I do I prefer FOV over magnification.
This happened
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Cost me postage postage to Swaro NZ.
Three weeks later they were back on my doorstep. Full refurbishment and test. New eyecups. Test sheet included.
No charge...zero.
And I bought them off eBay (as with a Z5 and Z6) before they were readily available here, and never had a problem with after sales service.
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Stop using the range button as a trigger on an illegal gun and it might not have happened [emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by shift14
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Originally Posted by Philipo
I used 10x for years guiding until I looked through Phil's 8x binos I would never go back, tops or Bush makes no difference ya just find way more animals.
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Cheer all, I might take hotbarrels advice and wait till the Sika Show, O like the idea of trying them all out.
Pretty well set on either 8x32 or 8x42, should I need more magnification down the road I'll look at a spotting scope.
Surprisingly the 8x32s specs show the same FOV as the by x42s so may consider going for the smaller lighter ones for ease of carrying, which translates to more likely to have them on me.
Excuse my ignorance, but how do you find more animals with 8x over 10x? @BRADSQuote:
Originally Posted by BRADS
I reckon it comes down to field of veiw mate but really no ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by hotsoup
We did some testing on the tops a couple of years ago with @Philipo and other 3 hunters
8x 10x and 15x all el Swarovski
We all found more animals with the 8x binos than the others even at over 1500 yards where the 15x should of shined.
Probably a personal thing like brands as much as anything but I'd never go back to 10x myself
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Maybe you take them more often because they are lighter and less bulky. If I were buying again 8x30 instead of 10x42s all the wayQuote:
Originally Posted by hotsoup
I think that argument is a personal thing too depending on how YOU like to glass, I personally cant stand using 8's, feel like I'm too used to 10's and I get really bad eyestrain trying to compensate for less magnification, it's not like you're going to miss an animal using 10's that someone would pick up using 8's, you're still going to cover the exact same ground with them, in saying that I wouldn't go much higher mag than 10x as when you start searching for animals at over 2000yds holding them still starts to become a challenge. Watch some of those american blokes hunting elk and Mule deer and they will use binos just to get a feel for the lay of the land then sit down with a 60x or even 80x spotting scope and spend hours picking the whole landscape apart looking into every little book and cranny and shadow and its pays off for them. Another thing I have picked up from YouTube etc is running your binos on a tripod - amazing the difference a real steady rest makes, you can glass all day no worriesQuote:
Originally Posted by hotsoup
I have always stated 8x are better than 10x - FOV and less shake/tremble exageration
But - selling 8x Re 10x - 8x like pulling teeth - but maybe that is changing
Got some 10x Geovids forsale if anyone want :-)
How did you get the chicken so angry?Quote:
Originally Posted by shift14
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I have a pair of 8x32 ultravids and a pair of 8x25CL swaro pockets. As good as the ultravids are the convenience of the pockets can not be beat. Its all good having these huge 10x40+ sized optics but when faced with a long walk up a very steep hill its really easy to just leave them behind. The best glass is the one you actually take with you.
What has feild of view got to do with scanning for animals?
If you know your animals, break the ground up systematicly and scan from right to left (opposite to reading) you shouldn't miss much. I only use 1/2 of what mine has available because of the way I glass anyway.
I have never used 8x binos but I certainly don't have any trouble seeing animals with my 10x. Or keeping them steady.
I hunt with a fella that has an old standard set of Swaro 10x30 or 35s
Eye cups are held on with insulation tape. Lens coating on all lenses are scratched from where he rubs the things with finger, glove or anything handy. I can't physically use them they're horrible. But he can spot a set of chamois horns in shadow, sticking above rocks and scrub from miles away.
He is just really good at spotting animals. Always has been.
FOV shouldn't be any huge advantage if you are systematic and deliberate.
I also don't waste time by glassing country I know I can't reach or hunt which is pretty common in chamois or Thar country.
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Well you are a world class hunting legend R93, I don't think most on here could compete really, as you could probably hit a Chammie in the eye at 4000yards with a 7.62 nato aye
But at least I didn't light me gillie suit on fire having a dart aye :pacman::XD::D
Generally speaking, a wider field of view makes it easier to spot an animal.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
I agree with everything you have said think it's more of a personal thing than anything else.
It wasn't until we tested all 3 El models together the difference became clear to me.
R93 I do naturally scan right to left but I never thought about the 'why' until I read you post. Out of interest, why scan right to left - do our brains process the info better that way??Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
I was just taught to do it years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
Theory is because we read left to right we can skip or misread words but still get the gist of a sentence or paragraph.
Right to left is not natural and supposed to force more attention.
Unless of course you can read farsi or arabic[emoji16]
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I have never used 8x so I don't know any different.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRADS
I am certainly not going to buy any but if I get a chance I will give a set a go.
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You cant be drinking enough of that Whisky - haven't got the hand tremble "yet" :-))Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
That "to me" is main reason I prefer 8x over 10x - and I have had it since 20 so I don't think it was caused by the drink - mmm ??? We did drink a lot back then but
Lol. [emoji16] I can't glass well unsupported.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarvo
But certainly don't have a noticeable tremble that affects me when comfortable.
Lack of whiskey would probably generate one tho.
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A tremble is a tremble - just more visible with higher mag - still going to muck up your glassing. I have never had it and can glass with 16x unsupported. More likely Buck Fever and excitement than Whiskey. Have you thought about image stabilised binos ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarvo
Ranging for @300winmag, button gets a helluva workoutQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
In fact I might as well shoot them for him, I do everything else.....:thumbsup:
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Yes Grasshopper but remember who helped you knock over the stag you shot.
Yep, I owe you for that, was pretty dark on the R8 for a bit. Nearly wrapped it around the nearest tree...:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by 300winmag
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I sue the Vortex Fury binoculars. I am enjoying them so far.
Well that was a Freudian slip if ever there was !Quote:
Originally Posted by Kudu
