Thread: What's considered "lightweight "

My old T3 with 24.5" fluted #4 barrel, T1 brake, VX6HD and one of Kens stocks. I was happy with this weight, I reckon it was light enough to shoot well in most positions.

Originally Posted by superdiver

My 260 is 3.5kg all up with dpt, vx3 and rings. A real dream to carry and shoot

Want to sell it? Lol


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@Stocky, here ya go



Not sure why around 1.5 MOA would "erk" you, unless you are shooting flies ? In my book that is well within minute-of-deer/goat

Originally Posted by ebf

@Stocky, here ya go

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Not sure why around 1.5 MOA would "erk" you, unless you are shooting flies ? In my book that is well within minute-of-deer/goat

Interesting that guys who regularly shoot really accurate rifles for score (i.e. there is no hiding as in the old one good group thing or "called fliers") are comfortable with more realistic accuracy for their hunting rifles!!

EBF - could you please give the approximate dimensions of your barrel profile. Thanks

@Tentman

.630 at muzzle, chamber end is .940 - the aim was to get as much "meat" off the barrel as possible.

Yeah man, I have Palma barrels that I expect a lot more from...

Wanting every rifle in the safe to shoot the mythical 0.5 moa groups "all day long" is nuts in my book. 3 (and even 5-shot) groups make me have a good old chuckle Gimp's 5x5 challenge is much more realistic, it mirrors what you typically have in high-end for-score comps : 4 or 5 strings of 10 shots per day.

With my hunting rigs, if I can consistently shoot 5 shots into an apple sized ring at 100 yds, I am happy to go for a walk. With the 45/70, if I can hit an A4 sized piece of paper several times in a row at 100 yds, that is a good day.

I mean the 5x5 group thing I posted approx a million years ago is a relatively good way to determine whether your rifle actually does consistently shoot "moa groups all day" within the bounds of reasonability, but for hunting purposes a more relevant test is firing a single shot at a target, cold bore, every time you go to the range - and mapping whether those first shots are within a suitable displacement range from point of aim

I think my Sako 85 finn with DPT, 3-18x Mk6, sling and cheek riser is about 3.8kg - and that's a comfortable weight to carry although not what I'd call "light".


Kiwi Greg has been putting together a light/short M7 .223 for me which I hope will come in quite a bit less than that with an old 3.5-10x Mk4 on it and some lightweight components

Originally Posted by gimp

I think my Sako 85 finn with DPT, 3-18x Mk6, sling and cheek riser is about 3.8kg - and that's a comfortable weight to carry although not what I'd call "light".


Kiwi Greg has been putting together a light/short M7 .223 for me which I hope will come in quite a bit less than that with an old 3.5-10x Mk4 on it and some lightweight components

What weight are you hoping for. And what twist?

My dirty old wooden stocked Model Seven 260 with Vixen 2.5 - 15 scope comes in at 3.2 KG
The scope is almost 600 grams of that... if I welded on some wooden sights I could be well under 3kg

Originally Posted by Tahr

What weight are you hoping for. And what twist?

1:8 for 75-80gr. Might regret not going 1:7 for 88s at some stage but it looks like it shoots mint...

I'm hoping something in the 2.3-2.5kg range bare so 3.0-3.2ish maybe with scope and suppressor. Bit of a guess at numbers, they don't really matter so much as "it will be shorter and lighter than my .260"

On my old analogue scales carefully calibrated with a 500gn block of butter!!


My original Terminator Products Custom M700 (POS) 6.5SAUM 26inch barrel with McMillan Carbon Stock incl DPT magnum suppressor, no sling, scope or rings = 3.3kgs

Its replacement (that supprisingly actually fired extracts cases like it should)
Kimber Montana 300WSM 20 inch barrel and 2.5-8 VX3i +talley rings + Sling and DPT magnum suppressor = 3.25kgs

Originally Posted by gimp

1:8 for 75-80gr. Might regret not going 1:7 for 88s at some stage but it looks like it shoots mint...

I'm hoping something in the 2.3-2.5kg range bare so 3.0-3.2ish maybe with scope and suppressor. Bit of a guess at numbers, they don't really matter so much as "it will be shorter and lighter than my .260"

What length barrel? And intended bullets? Interested as I have a recently acquired 1:8 twist .223.

Originally Posted by Dama dama

What length barrel? And intended bullets? Interested as I have a recently acquired 1:8 twist .223.

18 and wanted to use 75gr ELD-M but it looks like the 80 ELD-M shoots better so 80gr it is.

Originally Posted by gimp

18 and wanted to use 75gr ELD-M but it looks like the 80 ELD-M shoots better so 80gr it is.

Last question Intended us? Ta

Originally Posted by Tahr

Last question Intended us? Ta

Being a bit easier to carry for a fat office worker like me when I go hunting more or less anything

E: I just like .223 for light recoil + effectiveness and wanted a rifle that I could use AICS mags for loading long OAL with heavier high BC bullets