Thread: What's considered "lightweight "

Hey guys killing some time in the shed and the rifle needed a clean . Thought I'd get the kitchen scales out.

Winnchester model 70 lightweight
270
Vx3 4-14 cds
22 inch barrel

Weight without suppressor 3454g
Weight with dpt suppresor 3693g
Weight with brake 3575g
Hunting weight suppresor/sling/harris copy bipod/ 4306g
*Mag empty
(That's made me want a lighter bipod/sling lol)

What is considered to be a light weight rifle?

Less than 3kg ready to go is a very nice weight, especially with a suppressor. That doesn't include a bipod as they cock up the balance etc.

Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

Less than 3kg ready to go is a very nice weight, especially with a suppressor. That doesn't include a bipod as they cock up the balance etc.

Agreed.

I have a severely modified Savage that ended up at 3.1kg (scoped and with a DPT can) - it is fun to carry

And it is a long action as well, so would probably go around 3.0 kg or less in short action.

110 action, in a factory older Savage plastic stock - the version with internal mag. used to have a 270 barrel on it, but I cut my original 7-08 factory barrel to 14, and re-profiled it to a pencil (0.625).

Leupy VX3 3.5-10 CDS with Aluminas on top.

Scope & caps probably 400 grams. DPT can is 200 grams, so bare rifle would be 2.5 kg

It is nicely balanced as well. Quite a few of the ultralight rifles I've handled are seriously unbalanced.

Originally Posted by ebf

Agreed.

I have a severely modified Savage that ended up at 3.1kg (scoped and with a DPT can) - it is fun to carry

And it is a long action as well, so would probably go around 3.0 kg or less in short action.

110 action, in a factory older Savage plastic stock - the version with internal mag. used to have a 270 barrel on it, but I cut my original 7-08 factory barrel to 14, and re-profiled it to a pencil (0.625).

Leupy VX3 3.5-10 CDS with Aluminas on top.

Scope & caps probably 400 grams. DPT can is 200 grams, so bare rifle would be 2.5 kg

It is nicely balanced as well. Quite a few of the ultralight rifles I've handled are seriously unbalanced.

Who repro filed your barrel mate

Originally Posted by Stocky

Who reprofiled your barrel mate

Got a metal lathe at home, so did it myself. Took measurements off my AR15 carbine barrel and left a bit of a safety margin.

Did wear a welding mask for the first couple of test shots though

Originally Posted by ebf

Got a metal lathe at home, so did it myself. Took measurements off my AR15 carbine barrel and left a bit of a safety margin.

Did wear a welding mask for the first couple of test shots though

How's accuracy out of interest would love to see some pics?

Likewise with time on my hands the other day I chucked a few favorites over the scales - all with slings but no suppressors/bipods etc:

Zastava 223 with Sightron 4-16 - 3440gm (7.6 lbs)
Brno Model 21 8x57 with Weaver SS 2.5-10 - 3940gm (8.7 lbs)
Mauser K 6.5x47 with 2.3-7 Kahles - 3380gm (7.5 lbs)
Lithgow LA102 308 with Athlon 4.5-27 - 4070gm (8.9 lbs) - surprising given this a cross-over type with a reasonably big scope
Savage/Stevens 200 in 223 with 2.5-10 Minox 3340gm (7.4 lbs)
Rem Model 7 in 260 with Boyds laminated stock and VX3 2.5-10 3285gm (7.25 lbs) - this stock needs taken to with a bloody big rasp, might get close to 3000gms with such treatment

I recently collated information posted by forumites on pack contents and weights - mostly from threads back several years to 2015, and back then most of them were carrying over 4000gm of rifle and scope

Anything made by Melvin Forbes

Wheres the most common place to loose weight? Just weighed the stock at 795g after having a google the McMillan edge is 635g it's a bit but not the difference I thought

Originally Posted by SGR

Wheres the most common place to loose weight?

Generally around your waist

Barrel, stock & scope would give you the most gains.

Stuff like fluting barrel & bolt not much.

Originally Posted by SGR

Wheres the most common place to loose weight? Just weighed the stock at 795g after having a google the McMillan edge is 635g it's a bit but not the difference I thought

Stock, floor plate (plastic/alloy) and fluting.

Originally Posted by SGR

Wheres the most common place to loose weight? Just weighed the stock at 795g after having a google the McMillan edge is 635g it's a bit but not the difference I thought

If you want a genuinely light rifle you have to accept the small gains everywhere and add them up, and start from a light base action. Can't generally get a super light rifle just by changing one thing although stock is often the single biggest saving (e.g. Model 7 plastic stocks are approx 12 kilograms and a stug is 600gm)

@Brian is going to check some of mine for me, Forbes with lightweight Minox and supressor will be interesting and the Mauser Kurz.

Forbes 308+2.5-10x44scope+DPT suppressor+ rifle sling=3.219 kg



































Forbes

I tell you what's lightweight. My 416 rem mag-well light for a DG rifle. I think without scope and bases it was from memory 8 1/4 pound. It was lighter than my mates junker 3006.
I always thought it odd as the book weight for them is up over 9. Don't know why mine is so light-it certainly wont help soften the recoil that's for sure