What's the pick of the lever action calibers?

they definatley aren't your traditional looking lever action

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Originally Posted by northdude

they definatley aren't your traditional looking lever action

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I'm a bit scared how the Mrs would be with me walking in the house with those curves in my arms.

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

jit has something special just for you......

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No he doesn't...

45-70 marlin mate, cant recommend them enough.

another savage 99 fan here. they come up on TM for $5-700 in say 308 commonly enough.
nice to shoot plenty accurate enough for most shooters.

lot of choice in common calibers. 30-30, 22-250, 250-3000, 300 sav, all the 308 family (most are 243 or 308 but 6.5mm, 7mm & 358 where made)
get the barrel cut back and threaded for your 30 cal silencer.
fit a 1-4x20 #4 scope or red dot.
mine has a boyds laminated stock with a couple of extra holes for weight reduction. about 25mm lopped of the butt and a limbsaver fitted.
not a fan of the metal butt plate while shooting heavy bullets.

down side is it will be heavier than modern ultra lights bolt action or single shoots.
Z
ps missed a couple of more pistol type calibers but probably not going to find them in NZ, 25-35, 32-40, 38-55, 375 win, 410 shotgun

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Originally Posted by ZQLewis

another savage 99 fan here. they come up on TM for $5-700 in say 308 commonly enough.
nice to shoot plenty accurate enough for most shooters.

lot of choice in common calibers. 30-30, 22-250, 250-3000, 300 sav, all the 308 family (most are 243 or 308 but 6.5mm, 7mm & 358 where made)
get the barrel cut back and threaded for your 30 cal silencer.
fit a 1-4x20 #4 scope or red dot.
mine has a boyds laminated stock with a couple of extra holes for weight reduction. about 25mm lopped of the butt and a limbsaver fitted.
not a fan of the metal butt plate while shooting heavy bullets.

down side is it will be heavier than modern ultra lights bolt action or single shoots.
Z
ps missed a couple of more pistol type calibers but probably not going to find them in NZ, 25-35, 32-40, 38-55, 375 win, 410 shotgun

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Have seen the odd 22 Hi-Power too.

If you are going .308 then we are not talking pistol cartridges. 45-70Govt. Be masculine while it is still legal.

Awesome to see so many people keen about levers. Lots to process.

So far I'm sitting tight and just waiting for the laws and then buy stuff

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Originally Posted by Russian 22.

Am thinking of getting a lever or maybe a single shot take down. I haven't decided. Mainly as my bush gun is now almost certainly illegal.

What's a good cartridge that has good factory availability?

I only have a 30 cal suppressor which would limit me to 30-30. But I don't mind getting a larger suppressor.

Are 44 mag or 357 worth getting over 30-30?

This would only be used in bush where there's no chance of a longer shot.

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marlin 444. i might know of a very near new one that might look at offers.

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Originally Posted by gadgetman

Have seen the odd 22 Hi-Power too.

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Where! A friend has a takedown 250/3000, a std 300 savage, and is looking for a 22. As to zq Lewis's suggestion of cutting the barrel to supress it. Shame on you sir unless its a recently made one and even then its a questionable thing to do its not going to be a high volume shooter and at close ranges in the bush im not sure supressors are that efficent, the sonic boom of the bullets flight contributes significantly to the heard sound.

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Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Where! A friend has a takedown 250/3000, a std 300 savage, and is looking for a 22. As to zq Lewis's suggestion of cutting the barrel to supress it. Shame on you sir unless its a recently made one and even then its a questionable thing to do its not going to be a high volume shooter and at close ranges in the bush im not sure supressors are that efficent, the sonic boom of the bullets flight contributes significantly to the heard sound.

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He is right. Would you bastards please stop cutting the barrels off classic rifles!

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Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Where! A friend has a takedown 250/3000, a std 300 savage, and is looking for a 22. As to zq Lewis's suggestion of cutting the barrel to supress it. Shame on you sir unless its a recently made one and even then its a questionable thing to do its not going to be a high volume shooter and at close ranges in the bush im not sure supressors are that efficent, the sonic boom of the bullets flight contributes significantly to the heard sound.

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Been on trademe a joker in the Hawkes Bay

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308, Minox ZA5 1.5-8x32 egw rail and rings. Weighs 3.55kg without ammo.

As the Highlander says 'There can only be one'

I've been pondering about getting a lever gun again actually.

I know some don't like them but the Marlin 336 ss are damn nice.

I spoke to Desert guns Cromwell about them pending law changes for a pure Bush gun.

16"barrel suppressed and a 1.5-6 Burris would be the business especially if you got it AI'd because why not

With all this emphasis on "bush pigs" etc recently; I've often wondered why there hasn't been more uptake of lever actions here? Maybe it's because they are not available in cool or modern calibre? When you think of how many deer are shot around the world with a trusty 30-30 it should be the perfect bush gun; let alone the BLR's etc in 308 and other calibres. I suppose the 30-30 wouldn't be much chop when you spot a deer on a slip from the bush.... But as a bush gun; light, handy and good to handle. Just thinking out loud! :)

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Originally Posted by mucko

marlin 444. i might know of a very near new one that might look at offers.

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I am not in a position to buy just yet.

But I'd also have to reload for that caliber.

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Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Where! A friend has a takedown 250/3000, a std 300 savage, and is looking for a 22. As to zq Lewis's suggestion of cutting the barrel to supress it. Shame on you sir unless its a recently made one and even then its a questionable thing to do its not going to be a high volume shooter and at close ranges in the bush im not sure supressors are that efficent, the sonic boom of the bullets flight contributes significantly to the heard sound.

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It would most likely be a new one. I dont buy any gun that I am apprehensive about chopping and threading.

I think with that Leverloution ( excuse the spelling ) ammo ( the stuff with the plastic tip) you could probably push out to 200m or maybe 250ish. Has increased the range since the old flat nose rounds a fair bit

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Originally Posted by bumblefoot

With all this emphasis on "bush pigs" etc recently; I've often wondered why there hasn't been more uptake of lever actions here? Maybe it's because they are not available in cool or modern calibre? When you think of how many deer are shot around the world with a trusty 30-30 it should be the perfect bush gun; let alone the BLR's etc in 308 and other calibres. I suppose the 30-30 wouldn't be much chop when you spot a deer on a slip from the bush.... But as a bush gun; light, handy and good to handle. Just thinking out loud! :)

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Originally Posted by Tussock

He is right. Would you bastards please stop cutting the barrels off classic rifles!

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Yeah I spotted that 88 284 on Trademe and would have been all over it except he had taken a hacksaw to it.:oh noes:

I can accept the grief for modding 1 of mine. Still have the original barrel and stock so it could be put back to original but it's only a budget basic 1975 one, Rotary mag but no cartridge counter.
The other 1 is Dads and that one had crown damage and a rust pit 30-40 down from the muzzle.

My son wants a take down 250-3000 or 30-30 one with a peep sight as a pack gun but they are pricey.
Was 2-3 22 hi power's last year on TM but I was put off by what I have read re availability of reloading components (.228 cal") and that they can be finicky to make shoot well.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...3692960%29.jpg
That's a Sav 99 in22 Hipower.
Hope he had a large elephant to be sitting on.

And another quote
"The famous elephant hunter WDM Bell used a .22 Savage Hi-Power to kill Cape buffalo in West Africa in the 1920s, "

Not for me.
Z

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Originally Posted by rugerman

I think with that Leverloution ( excuse the spelling ) ammo ( the stuff with the plastic tip) you could probably push out to 200m or maybe 250ish. Has increased the range since the old flat nose rounds a fair bit

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Yeah that's what I thought too :) This thread has really got me interested in the Henry Long Ranger! I had a win 94 30/30 when I was young; should never have sold it! But young and dumb etc.... It handled beautifully! I see the Henry Long Ranger is available in 223, 243, 6.5 Creedmor and 308. Accuracy seems to be good too. Be nice with a 1-5x on it.... Hmmm; what am I talking myself into? ;)

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Originally Posted by ZQLewis

I can accept the grief for modding 1 of mine. Still have the original barrel and stock so it could be put back to original but it's only a budget basic 1975 one, Rotary mag but no cartridge counter.
The other 1 is Dads and that one had crown damage and a rust pit 30-40 down from the muzzle.

My son wants a take down 250-3000 or 30-30 one with a peep sight as a pack gun but they are pricey.
Was 2-3 22 hi power's last year on TM but I was put off by what I have read re availability of reloading components (.228 cal") and that they can be finicky to make shoot well.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...3692960%29.jpg
That's a Sav 99 in22 Hipower.
Hope he had a large elephant to be sitting on.

And another quote
"The famous elephant hunter WDM Bell used a .22 Savage Hi-Power to kill Cape buffalo in West Africa in the 1920s, "

Not for me.
Z

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Yes, I was very tempted till I started looking at components. I'd like one in something like 308 or 243.

ahh the hi=power savage....now there is a cartridge screaming for a breakopen rifle if ever there was one...... if funds allowed I would rechamber a Bakail .222 or .223 leaving the neck tight...it SHOULD be a simple enough matter to swap out the spindles in reloading dies and get enough neck tension..... you would have unlimited choices then projectile wise.

Lever gun in .300blackout or .450 bushmaster with a can?

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Originally Posted by Dan88

Lever gun in .300blackout or .450 bushmaster with a can?

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I have never heard of one chambered in either. i'm sure they exist or are possible. would be a cool gun that's for sure

the aussies would have i bet

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Originally Posted by ZQLewis

another savage 99 fan here. they come up on TM for $5-700 in say 308 commonly enough.
nice to shoot plenty accurate enough for most shooters.

lot of choice in common calibers. 30-30, 22-250, 250-3000, 300 sav, all the 308 family (most are 243 or 308 but 6.5mm, 7mm & 358 where made)
get the barrel cut back and threaded for your 30 cal silencer.
fit a 1-4x20 #4 scope or red dot.
mine has a boyds laminated stock with a couple of extra holes for weight reduction. about 25mm lopped of the butt and a limbsaver fitted.
not a fan of the metal butt plate while shooting heavy bullets.

down side is it will be heavier than modern ultra lights bolt action or single shoots.
Z
ps missed a couple of more pistol type calibers but probably not going to find them in NZ, 25-35, 32-40, 38-55, 375 win, 410 shotgun

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I am not too concerned about weight, more the length.

I currently have to use my 24 inch barreled M98 sporter. she's heavy but recoil is pretty good.

just gets annoying when yah mates glide through and i have it get caught up hahah

ok.....you got the open stuff covered with the M98 so can have a dedicated BHSR ..... the .30/30 has done the bizo for a long time,cant see that changing soon, the .44mag or .44/40 do the job too..... work your problem backwards...think what you NEED the rifle/cartridge to be able to do and the options become clearer very fast.... dont right off a single break open either,shortened and canned with a suitable scope they are pretty darn handy.

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Originally Posted by Russian 22.

I have never heard of one chambered in either. i'm sure they exist or are possible. would be a cool gun that's for sure

the aussies would have i bet

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I havnt heard of them either but in the AR void they seem kinda obvious

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Originally Posted by Russian 22.

I have never heard of one chambered in either. i'm sure they exist or are possible. would be a cool gun that's for sure

the aussies would have i bet

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Ruger do the American in 450.bushy

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Originally Posted by Russian 22.

I am not too concerned about weight, more the length.

I currently have to use my 24 inch barreled M98 sporter. she's heavy but recoil is pretty good.

just gets annoying when yah mates glide through and i have it get caught up hahah

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Winchester model 94 trapper is real handy in the bush, 16 inch barrel. A few inches shorter and it would be classed as a pistol. Not easy to suppress though, and you would probably be kicked off the forum if you started chopping it! It's also very light, about 3.2kg iirc.
It's the rifle I choose most times I go bush stalking, so handy, and if I hear a deer I quietly chamber a round then uncock the hammer until I'm about to take a shot.

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Originally Posted by Got-ya

Yeah I spotted that 88 284 on Trademe and would have been all over it except he had taken a hacksaw to it.:oh noes:

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how short did it get chopped to?

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Originally Posted by Russian 22.

how short did it get chopped to?

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18"

.308 browning takedown
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Originally Posted by Marty Henry

A 170 flat nose 3030 tends to have quite a bit of authority, and doesnt seem to be lacking in the bang flop department out to 150 in my experience.
Biggest thing Ive shot with mine was a scrub bull not that I was looking for one. I know at the time i wished i had something bigger like a 45/70 but it stalled the bugger allright, and I spent the next quarter hour shaking like a leaf and wondering what to do next.

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I'd agree mate. Dont under estimate the good old 3030. I couldn't bring myself to chop my 94 or Tx 336 and change the fine balance/ classic lines with a supp.
SD on a 170 grain round nose is effective medicine to 150m. What more do you need. Recoil is light and they carry well. The 94 more so.

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Originally Posted by Got-ya

18"

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That's not bad.

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Originally Posted by GSP HUNTER

I'd agree mate. Dont under estimate the good old 3030. I couldn't bring myself to chop my 94 or Tx 336 and change the fine balance/ classic lines with a supp.
SD on a 170 grain round nose is effective medicine to 150m. What more do you need. Recoil is light and they carry well. The 94 more so.

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I did quite like an old pig hunters Winchester 94. Really handy.

Agreed - the 30-30 rifle options are ideal in the bush. They smack hard out to 200 esp with the new Leverevolution ammo. Winnie 94 or Marlin 336 excellent. Occasionally the shorter barrel Winnie trapper models pop up on trademe.

3030 Marlin loaded with 170gr Sierra FP.
100m off a bag, Sig Romeo 5 red dot

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zeroed for 50m.

Out of curiosity, why are you so set on having a suppressor? All of the traditional lever chamberings have a lot less report/muzzle blast. While I still use hearing protection when using a 30-30 at the range, you can fire one while out hunting quite comfortably without your ears ringing, unlike a 243, 308 etc. The pistol chamberings like 44-40 are even kinder on the ears. All of these have minimal felt recoil too, so unless you're planning on poaching, the can isn't necessary.

Yeah, nah, my trapper 30-30 is real loud, more shotgun boom than rifle crack. Recoil is more of a push than a sharp kick though.

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Originally Posted by tanqueray

Out of curiosity, why are you so set on having a suppressor? All of the traditional lever chamberings have a lot less report/muzzle blast. While I still use hearing protection when using a 30-30 at the range, you can fire one while out hunting quite comfortably without your ears ringing, unlike a 243, 308 etc. The pistol chamberings like 44-40 are even kinder on the ears. All of these have minimal felt recoil too, so unless you're planning on poaching, the can isn't necessary.

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I have tinnitus already. I don't want to make it worse. Its just how I feel about rifle noise report. I just prefer to have it suppressed.

There is / was an amazing example of a Sak o Finnwolf in 308 I think in Omaru , truly stunning