We can get the Norinco 22 bolt action copies of Brunos , why are we not getting the chinese copies of the Ithaca 37 pumpguns that the Canadians are getting ?
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We can get the Norinco 22 bolt action copies of Brunos , why are we not getting the chinese copies of the Ithaca 37 pumpguns that the Canadians are getting ?
Probably because no one wants to order the minimum number due to the size of the nz market.
I looked into importing some norinco ar15's and the minimum number needed,without getting into bribe territory, was more than I wanted to take the risk on for the nz market ESP when a certain large retail chain already has them and would probably just match any price I did.
The same numbers of .22's wouldn't seem like a risk
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But short answer, norinco will sell to anyone.
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Ask these people they are the ones to talk too.
Norconia GmbH
What sort of numbers are we talking? 100? 1000? 5000?
I would rather not say, as it seems to vary depending on who and when you do your dealing with so I wouldn't want to put anyone off trying.
Bribes would change that, but that's not a path that's open to me even though a NZ dealer who buys from them is very open about the fact he pays bribes to make stuff happen over there. Maybe it's worth talking to him to see if he could add some to his next order
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They also make clones of the German MP5s , and the thing you notice straight away is they are finished with a dull parkerised finish , and not the std HK black paint .
I think you may have taken his words far too seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by res
Maybe, but bribes are a way of life in China so it's VERY believable.
I spend I lot of time dealing with Chinese factory's, in China,
And have long given up keeping track of the amount of times that it has been hinted or even outright said that a bribe would help
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Seriously??
Bribing someone in order to own a.........norinco???
Actually, seriously???
Some people are in to some weird shit.
Whatever floats your boat I guess...........
I'd buy a cheap Norinco Mp5 clone. someone make this possible.
I'd also buy an expensive not-norinco Mp5 clone. Someone make this possible, instead. Or a Hk33K clone.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
Mmmmm mp5
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I'd take one of everything if we could get Norincos at decent prices.
Bulk buy DEFENSE PRODUCTS--±±·½¹¤Òµ
I'd think it is more like bribing a Chinese official to get a boat load of Norinco's out of China dirt cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proudkiwi
Can you buy anything in single serving ex China?
Mmmmmm MLRS
Wow! that catalog brings fucking ugly to a whole new level. I especially love the double barrel hammer shotty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Banana
Same i will take two if possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
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and an mp5 clone
I'll have one of those SVD's!
You honestly would actually want any of that junk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Banana
E: not trolling, just.....surprised.
Turns out they don't make the SVD's anymore :(
Bugger!
Every norinco I have owned has been very good functionality-a few min on each gun working on the finish and they are even better.
I own or have owned norinco rifles, pistols and shotguns and for the $ I'm not sure how they could be beaten.
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$200USD 1911s, Sig and CZ clones. $260 AKs... fuck yeah, I want some of that junk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proudkiwi
My wife lived in China for 6 years, amongst the chinese as a chinese (ie in chinese only areas), only speaking chinese, (in fact in some places she went to they had never seen a non-chinese). Bribes are not "un-usual" practice but almost the norm especially to "stay out of sight" from the Police as how she was living was illegal/strongly dis-couraged then (yes she's a crazy, commie so and so).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jexla
I'd love a SVD (dont ask me why I dont know, I just like the looks of them), an 54R one but the price is a but crazy right now, the cost of a decent AR10 which is a far better gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jexla
Yip, bribes are the norm in lots of places. It's quite entertaining working on a project in any 'emerging economy'. No doubt some niaeve righteous twit will be trying to get things done without paying backhanders and everything grinds to a halt. It's just a cultural difference and indemic right through their societies. We are so very lucky in New Zealand.
I had a chat to a Norinco importer about that, he said he's going to make some enquiries, but as you can see there's no product code for that item for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauser308
I spent 9 months in Sichuan province, ended up living not far from a series of missile silos, back handers are a way of life for a white boy. But yeah, bring on the MP5 clones!Quote:
Originally Posted by steven
YEAH , right , we sleep well at night , with NO corruption or bribes at all ? , Opps may not , we call it TAX , some countires have litte to no working income Tax system , but have corruption/bribes .
NZs corruption is just harder to see , hidden at higher levels of society .
In the end the cost maybe about the same for goods , its just that under corruption , no infrastructure gets built , BUT things get sorted quicker with corruption , swings and round abouts .
Gimp , just saw your HK33K lust , Yeap , actually there is not reason why we cannot have the following , MP5SD , MP5 with longer barrel , HK33 , HK33K & HK53 , G3 & G3K , all with fixed stocks , make the 762mm minimum lenght , and all could be A cat .
As far as I know , Germany does not make steel HKs any more , BUT the US does , they brought HK tooling from Portagul , Turkey & Greece make steek HKs on HK tooling as well , Pakisatn , Iran , Saudi all make them as well on HK tooling , Chinese on their own tooling ?
Norinco HJ-8 looks really interesting. Shoot, fillet, & cook a deer with one shot :D