Why the 243 is ideal for the elderly

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Originally Posted by gimp

So... you deny that there are valid reasons to select one calibre over another?

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No Gimp, not at all. Exactly the opposite. Whatever calibre you choose for yourself is up to you. But to say a calibre is uselss indicates that you think it has no use. If your that convinced it has no use then be shot with one. Otherwise it has a use and by definition cannot be described as 'useless'.

...and of course your opinion is correct - It's your opinion. Same as mine is correct. You can disagree about my opinions or whoever's but you cannot say that they are wrong - they are an opinion.

I don't think that being shot with a certain calibre is very useful to me.

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Originally Posted by gimp

I don't think that being shot with a certain calibre is very useful to me.

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This actually applies to all calibres.

Which is why I find your input valid and interesting. As it's your opinion based on your experiences. If I disagree it doesn't mean I am wrong it simply means that my opinion, which is probably based on many different idea's than your own, just differs.

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Originally Posted by gimp

This actually applies to all calibres.

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I don't think being shot with anything would be particularly 'usefull'

Does that mean you won't shoot me?

Why is a calibre 'useless'? I don't think there are many that are useless. There are a lot that can be bettered by a different calibre perhaps. Like most cars are bettered by a different(more expensive) car. A 3 wheeled Robin Reliant will get you where you want to go, albeit rather scarily. Has a steering wheel, one less wheel than normal, is cheap to run and insure. But you wouldn't enter F1 with one. You can't say that the car is useless but you can say it could be massively improved upon.
If someone handed me a .243 and said shoot that deer there 50m away. I wouldn't say - no that is a useless calibre I would just shoot the bloody thing. if I didn't miss that is. But If someone handed me a .22lr and a rangefinder and said shoot that Elk at 950 yards then I would say a .22lr is useless for that.

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Originally Posted by gimp

Does that mean you won't shoot me?

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Just run off to past 100m and I'd miss :)

And besides - your far too 'usefull' to shoot :thumbsup:

Awww crap nothing says "you are wrong" more than a bunch of miscreant sycophants agreeing with you.I withdraw my previous comments and my monty python quote.Jakewire you are right I am wrong.The .243 is an Absolutley worthless Caliber.For my penance I will keep shooting this absolutley worthless caliber for the forseeable future and here by refer to it only as "the Awk".

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Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

I don't even know where to start....
All I can say is it's horses for courses.
Different bullet weights & construction make a massive difference to performance.

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Nailed it Greg

Virtually every "deer" caliber is an excelent killer IF the right pill is selected for the IMPACT velocity at intended RANGES and it put in the intended place.

However I think most of his arguement hinged on barrel life.Witch for the average hunter is well more than acceptable.

Excuse spelling something has happened to my sqiggely red lines:D

Barrel life? Every barrel on the planet would last longer than my life for me. I shot 20 rounds a year on average with my centrefire - prolly why my shooting isn't consistent. I'd shoot more if I could afford more. For me barrel life is not an issue at all.

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Originally Posted by sneeze

Awww crap nothing says "you are wrong" more than a bunch of miscreant sycophants agreeing with you.I withdraw my previous comments and my monty python quote.Jakewire you are right I am wrong.The .243 is an Absolutley worthless Caliber.For my penance I will keep shooting this absolutley worthless caliber for the forseeable future and here by refer to it only as "the Awk".

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You should really be punished properly, I sentence you to owning a .243 Ackley Improved

Hmmmm Karma
It just happens that at this point in time we have 243 members!!

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Originally Posted by Steve338

You should really be punished properly, I sentence you to owning a .243 Ackley Improved

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Then let it be so and it shall be known as Awk I

So does improving something that is abolutley useless just make it more useless?

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Originally Posted by Tone

Hmmmm Karma
It just happens that at this point in time we have 243 members!!

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So 243 absolutley useless members?