Why does "Sako" run cheap arsed, hard arsed solid rubber butt pads ?

He's another Philipo Saturday night "question / rant" ( was meant to be in the hills but shit gets in the way ) so just been playing with a couple of bang sticks one being my Carbon Sako 90 Peak, this is a 6k plus rifle with a $5 piece of hard rubbery shite on the butt pad, now while I love using my rifles az a walking stick & for bashing scrub outta the way like Thors hammer I need some love in the recoil department having a rooted collar bone.


I've had sub $1000 bumfars with better kit, but Sako why, we don't all live in the artic tundra you scandie cunts ?

Hey blame the Italians, Beretta probly make them use the rubber ones!

they are aimed at the hardened cunts market:P

First thing I did to my Walnut 308 / 85, kept to the orginal lenght but cut & installed a limb saver. No one would me Boo for it, on this site, when I tried to sell it. Still got the original rubber red thing if someone wants it.

In the old days only "the best London guns" had red rubber buttplates, Sako have just copied the trend (and have done for years, along with other gunmakers to be fair) trying to pass off their machine made stuff like it was handmade high quality . . . .

À lot of those limbsavers pads become sticky after 3 to 5 years anyway and need replacement.
Probably not a thing that beretta wants to deal with. They have enough to do with their 3 brands of shotguns.

Only ever owned one Sako .
Couldn’t see the payback for the “ Sako “ tariff.
Tikka has gone the same way on a lesser scale.
Recoil pads are a “ hair puller” on many Rifles these days so I agree with the sentiment, but it’s not just a Sako thing.

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Originally Posted by Philipo

He's another Philipo Saturday night "question / rant" ( was meant to be in the hills but shit gets in the way ) so just been playing with a couple of bang sticks one being my Carbon Sako 90 Peak, this is a 6k plus rifle with a $5 piece of hard rubbery shite on the butt pad, now while I love using my rifles az a walking stick & for bashing scrub outta the way like Thors hammer I need some love in the recoil department having a rooted collar bone.


I've had sub $1000 bumfars with better kit, but Sako why, we don't all live in the artic tundra you scandie cunts ?

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My Finnwolf came with a hard plastic buttplate which got broken when it hit a rock, now replaced with a section of Cavallino retread - a little more give!
But yeah, I never gave it a thought about why it came with a hard-as plastic buttplate from the factory.:O_O:

@Philipo I'm just wondering about what brings on a rant
Pissed off at cancelled trip ?
Alcohol ?
Sexual frustration ?
Collar bone pain ?
All or most of the above ?

In my happy place ( pre 1900 big bore ) a solid steel butt plate was state of the art.
So a sore shoulder is a given

But in mitigation the stock designs are pretty good at dealing with recoil and they only used open sights so your cheek is snug down.

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Originally Posted by blip

they are aimed at the hardened cunts market:P

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More for those who do not wish to acknowledge they have a recoil fetish...

I think a recoil pad is the most often changed part on a stock rifle,as its the easiest way to alter length if pull.
Why waste money on a throw away item?

Because they want to remind you just because you enjoy the finer things in life you shouldn't turn into a pussy.
Embrace the thump!

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Originally Posted by Tentman

Hey blame the Italians, Beretta probly make them use the rubber ones!

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Yeah ya probably right, it's all about the $$$ nowadays

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Originally Posted by blip

they are aimed at the hardened cunts market:P

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Blahahaha

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Originally Posted by Finnwolf

My Finnwolf came with a hard plastic buttplate which got broken when it hit a rock, now replaced with a section of Cavallino retread - a little more give!
But yeah, I never gave it a thought about why it came with a hard-as plastic buttplate from the factory.:O_O:

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Yes my 2k Finnfire 17hmr came with a poxy plastic butt pad ( while recoil is not an issue with the mighty hmr ) it was a pain in the arse as if you lent the gun on any thing hard like a wooden floor it wanted to slip out in fall over

I replaced it with a Limb saver & the bonus was it lengthen the LOP which was great.

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Originally Posted by akaroa1

@Philipo I'm just wondering about what brings on a rant
Pissed off at cancelled trip ?
Alcohol ?
Sexual frustration ?
Collar bone pain ?
All or most of the above ?

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Probably a bit of "all of the above" hahahaha, you also forgot "boredom" , but thank you for taking the time out to ask how I'm doing :)

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Originally Posted by Steve123

Because they want to remind you just because you enjoy the finer things in life you shouldn't turn into a pussy.
Embrace the thump!

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Recoil never really used to be an issue for me, but doing a Superman off my bike & fucking my collar bone in multiple places ( I have an enormous hump where the butt pad goes into my shoulder ) has caused me alot of annoyance & completely ruined my shooting accuracy, however I was going through some reloading gear this arvo & have found a Limbsaver I had on a 300WM carbon heavy I sold, so now fitted it.

There is a trick when fitting a LS to a Sako carbon stock as the stock has a lip running around the outside ( their solid rubber buttpad has a recess in it so they connect better ( the LS is fully flat ) so I make a template & cut a insert out bed roll foam to make the final fit better.

Sorry to hear about your collar bone Phillipo.
Once its healed strong perhaps you could ask if they can plane off some of the sticking out bits of bone and make it straighter. Could be covered by ACC.
In the meantime, maybe its Limbsavers and sissy pads for you.

The pad on my 85 is pretty deep and soft, just a curved shape so would be difficult to change specially in the plastic stock.
I use it a lot as a walking stick; too heavy to hold it up I have to rest it on the ground every second step.
Butt its outlasted several pairs of boots and the rubber is really tough and grippy. They got that one right.

Then there is the Finnfire 2 which came with the hard plastic butt pad. I saw that as just a place holder while the new owner selects the real butt pad of their choice. If anyone wants an original Sako plastic butt plate $20 pp send me a PM.
I do like a solid pad, specially for .22. I think it will give a consistent recoil. I like the Pachmayr decelerator with basket weave face and have them on a couple of rifles. Except the 85 which would be a mission to replace and it doesn't need it yet after 13 yr.

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Walnut (limbsaver) & Carbon Ken Henderson has a nice recoil pad to.

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I wonder if it's because some of the European hunting is driven type. With an emphasis on shooting standing and at moving targets?
So they're not designing for bench and bipod type shooting where their recoil pads are terrible. There's a big difference in placement of the rifle on a shoulder between standing and prone too.

I prefer no recoil pad, or a very small hard pad, for shooting standing and for quickly bringing up a rifle to the shoulder.
With heavy recoiling rifles I find a soft and thick recoil pad can be a liability. Can fetch up on clothing, too much movement of the rifle in isolation to the body on recoil so you're in danger of scoping yourself or smacking your cheek with the stock comb if you're a bit sloppy with check placement. Best to tense the shoulder and back slightly and rock back on recoil instead of letting the rifle and shoulder alone get pushed back.
I have a .375H&H Sako 85 with the standard hard red rubber pad and I think if I changed this to a limbsaver or similar it would improve shooting on a bench considerably (because it's a bit "lively") but make standing shooting worse without making the felt recoil much different. It's an advantage to move back with the rifle rather than have it move and compress a recoil pad (hurts your check and teeth if you have a checkpiece and it smacks you in the face).

The rifles I use for bipod and bench have nice limbsavers or similar for sure.

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Originally Posted by Philipo

Yeah ya probably right, it's all about the $$$ nowadays




Blahahaha




Yes my 2k Finnfire 17hmr came with a poxy plastic butt pad ( while recoil is not an issue with the mighty hmr ) it was a pain in the arse as if you lent the gun on any thing hard like a wooden floor it wanted to slip out in fall over

I replaced it with a Limb saver & the bonus was it lengthen the LOP which was great.





Probably a bit of "all of the above" hahahaha, you also forgot "boredom" , but thank you for taking the time out to ask how I'm doing :)







Recoil never really used to be an issue for me, but doing a Superman off my bike & fucking my collar bone in multiple places ( I have an enormous hump where the butt pad goes into my shoulder ) has caused me alot of annoyance & completely ruined my shooting accuracy, however I was going through some reloading gear this arvo & have found a Limbsaver I had on a 300WM carbon heavy I sold, so now fitted it.

There is a trick when fitting a LS to a Sako carbon stock as the stock has a lip running around the outside ( their solid rubber buttpad has a recess in it so they connect better ( the LS is fully flat ) so I make a template & cut a insert out bed roll foam to make the final fit better.

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Going to put a brake on the hmr as well? :)

Why don't you just learn to shoot off the other shoulder then?

Interesting article I saw about rifles stored in gun safes for long periods of time, the recoil pads that are soft have been known to change shape somewhat when rifles are stored on their butts for long periods of time. Apparently company’s make them harder to combat the need for returns and exchanges with mis shapen butt pads

I've had a couple of recoil pads go soft and out of shape but it takes about 20 years.

I expect most sako are designed for positional shooting, specially standing, which compromises a bit for pure bench shooting but its what makes them so good for NZ hunting.

Harden up flip flop.