Thread: Winchester Model 70 Ultimate Shadow

Experiences, accuracy, Owners of, Opinions with Winchester Model 70 Ultimate Shadow
I have seen one in 270 which has taken my interest. There don't seem to be many around.

Are the newer Win M70's like this a better built action, trigger than the 80's versions say?

Cheers
GSP H.

The 80s versions and what you get today are all much the same. If you want a real nice M70 then a pre '64 is a complete different beast, about as close to a custom rifle to come out of the factory at that time, the actions and woodwork on them are very very nice of you find one thats been looked after. Pick up a "new" m70 and work the action etc and then pick up a pre 64 you will be blown away how nice the old girl is

@Ryan_songhurt
Thank you Ryan, got to get my hands on one of the older ones to see and feel the workmanship
I am thinking of making a bush pig, option was to go a ultimate shadow or buy an older m70 and whack a light weight stock on her, barrel to 18 and a decent suppressor,
could not bring myself to cut a pre 64 down.

cheers W/.

The actions on the ultimate shadow, while not a pre64 are still very smooth, slick feeding units, especially with the 270 case. The stocks are your typical plastic unit- functional but won’t win any beauty contest- but perfect for a bushpig rifle- great for abuse in the bush.
I’ve had six M70’s, four pre64’s and two CF post 90’s models and all have comfortably shot under an inch with none or a bit of load development. The triggers on the two post 90’s were decent- between 3-4 pounds I’d say with a good release- hardly any creep. What are they asking for it?
I’d say go for it if the price was right, however expect a big velocity drop in 270 if your barrel is going down to 18 inches- which only starts to matter if you think you might stretch the distance out past 300m.

I have a nice featherweight 308 for sale if it suits. 18inch suppressed.

Originally Posted by FRST

The actions on the ultimate shadow, while not a pre64 are still very smooth, slick feeding units, especially with the 270 case. The stocks are your typical plastic unit- functional but won’t win any beauty contest- but perfect for a bushpig rifle- great for abuse in the bush.
I’ve had six M70’s, four pre64’s and two CF post 90’s models and all have comfortably shot under an inch with none or a bit of load development. The triggers on the two post 90’s were decent- between 3-4 pounds I’d say with a good release- hardly any creep. What are they asking for it?
I’d say go for it if the price was right, however expect a big velocity drop in 270 if your barrel is going down to 18 inches- which only starts to matter if you think you might stretch the distance out past 300m.

Thanks mate, you have certainly road tested the M70's. Appreciate the depth of experience too. I have a featherweight XTR with a timney in 243 and totally love the action and rig. The action of the 270 shadow I was looking at seemed really smooth with a crisp trigger crisp but needed lightening. Mate wants 1k with rings, never fired a shot, still in its box. Is that a good buying you reckon FRST?

Originally Posted by stevodog

I have a nice featherweight 308 for sale if it suits. 18inch suppressed.

Nice one stevo, I'm only going to trash the bush gun, that stocks too purdy for what I have in mind. I dont want to have to worry about the wood. Leaning towards synthetic 270 18 inch suppressed bush pig, either the Winny or a Mauser M18

Staying true the #27Gang. I reckon a basic 150 round nose will be the ticket in the thick stuff.

Good luck with the sale mate. nice rifle.

Originally Posted by GSP HUNTER

Thanks mate, you have certainly road tested the M70's. Appreciate the depth of experience too. I have a featherweight XTR with a timney in 243 and totally love the action and rig. The action of the 270 shadow I was looking at seemed really smooth with a crisp trigger crisp but needed lightening. Mate wants 1k with rings, never fired a shot, still in its box. Is that a good buying you reckon FRST?

Yeah that’s an ok price if it’s new in the box.

If you reload, you can bushpig a 270 no worries, I see somewhere that Greg Duley is running an 18" 270 but there was no details of his load, I built a 16" 270 a while back and developed a load for it using Reloder 17 and 110 Sierra Pro Hunters, it pushed them at 3200 which when sighted in at 200 made it a point and shoot load out to 300 yards and using a reticle or dialling it still had plenty of snot out past 400

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

If you reload, you can bushpig a 270 no worries, I see somewhere that Greg Duley is running an 18" 270 but there was no details of his load, I built a 16" 270 a while back and developed a load for it using Reloder 17 and 110 Sierra Pro Hunters, it pushed them at 3200 which when sighted in at 200 made it a point and shoot load out to 300 yards and using a reticle or dialling it still had plenty of snot out past 400

Yeah man. Same amount of powder and a projectile .007 smaller than the 284, no reason it wouldn't be an awesome capable all rounder at 18 inches

Sweet...probably something around 2208 burn rate be good