Would you buy a .22 WSM?

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Originally Posted by Beavis

It we cut the pleasantries, the only reason this would be appealing, would be to have something somewhat close to what we had before 2019. If it got banned for whatever reason - oh well. Everything else fun has been banned.

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True, but not even being concerned with the 'fun' side - the costs for the planting of trees for one has gone hugely up with the increase of animal damage. I am very surprised that this hasn't been noted that often publicly, but I guess there are far more interesting things for the largely Auckland and Wellington based young greenie reporters to get sidetracked by.

If you really have a genuine need for more power and semi auto then just follow the correct process to get licensed for it? They haven't outright banned them, just restricted the use of them to the people that actually had a need for them.

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Originally Posted by Mintie

If you really have a genuine need for more power and semi auto then just follow the correct process to get licensed for it? They haven't outright banned them, just restricted the use of them to the people that actually had a need for them.

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While true, it leaves everyone else high and dry. And they didn't have the forethought to give competitive shooters the option to get licensed to keep using them.

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Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

yes and why - the only reason for semi really is heli shooting goats and deer otherwise a good bolt action will do the job every day - and I say that with 35 years as a professional under my belt - when goat culling magazine capacity was what was needed - that's why we liked the sakos 6 x .222 in mag and one in chamber 7 rounds to stop the mob - I carried a semi .308 for years culling ( moment of silence for my beloved Rem 742 ) and really did not need the semi capability that often

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I enjoy both old and modern firearms. Not having to manually reload after each shot is both convenient and modern,just like the transmission in my car,sure I don't need an auto but its nice to have.

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Originally Posted by Mintie

If you really have a genuine need for more power and semi auto then just follow the correct process to get licensed for it? They haven't outright banned them, just restricted the use of them to the people that actually had a need for them.

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The problem is the legislation is far too restrictive in scope. "Need" is always subjective, but there are lots of people other than professional cullers and land managers who previously used semi autos very effectively for pest control who are now not able to do the job adequately. I think the restrictions should be widened to non-commercial pest control, perhaps with some controls in place to stop the 'spray and pray' shooting style that gives semi autos a bad name.

I was told by a police officer that under the old law there were constant complaint from scared members of the public about hunters wandering DOC land etc with AR15s. Possibly had the MSSA category been restricted to sports events and pest control 20+ years ago it might have gone a long way to fixing the issues that led to the semi auto ban.

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Originally Posted by Ben Waimata

I think the restrictions should be widened to non-commercial pest control, perhaps with some controls in place to stop the 'spray and pray' shooting style that gives semi autos a bad name.

I was told by a police officer that under the old law there were constant complaint from scared members of the public about hunters wandering DOC land etc with AR15s. Possibly had the MSSA category been restricted to sports events and pest control 20+ years ago it might have gone a long way to fixing the issues that led to the semi auto ban.

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had fucktards stayed within the rules and not been using 20-30 shot magazines out in public...that fear may well have been less.....
had certain retailers not been selling ARs and big magazines at same time in same place to same person...... but that horse has bolted now