Am looking at purchasing another rifle. What is the best rifle around the $1600 mark, have heard alot of different opinions from rifle dealers but am after some good practical advice from the forum.
Cheers.
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Am looking at purchasing another rifle. What is the best rifle around the $1600 mark, have heard alot of different opinions from rifle dealers but am after some good practical advice from the forum.
Cheers.
Considered the Winchester model 70?
X-bolt, A-bolt or the Model 70 as suggested by Toby. Some people hate the X-bolts and think they're a downgrade from the A-bolt. I own three brownings, like them all. No X-bolt though. If Winchester brought out a Extreme weather 70 in cack-handed configuration I'd buy one tomorrow.
Go handle them, buying a rifle should be about fit and how it feels in your hands ;)
Haven't given them much thought, what are ya thoughts on one compared to others, A7 xbolt etc?
Sako A7, I'm set that that's what my next rifle is and it is NOT an expensive tikka! I'd pay an extra couple of hundred bucks any day of the week to be able to readily top load not to mention having a nice hogue stock and a bit better metal to plastic ratio e.g. steel feed lips, has 3 lugs vs tikkas 2 and comes in short and long action not just one generic action...
Let the shit fights roll.....
As Josh said. Look and compare the features for sure but at the end of the day, it has to feel good when you bring it to your shoulder and pull the trigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoshC
Quite often when I fire mine, I think "wish i had got it in a 6.5x55" Nothing wrong with 308 but it is a distracting thought
Hey josh what rifles do they do left handed that you've got?Quote:
Originally Posted by JoshC
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I've got abolts. And had a left hand bar up until recently. But xbolts come out left handed and are in the country now I see.
Don't forget the CZ550! :thumbsup:
invest the $1600 until you double it and then get a Sako Finnlight.
i'd get one in a heartbeat if they made one in a lefthand.
I wanted a finnlight, but then I sat down had a think about it and realised I was paying that extra $1200 or so to say that I have a finnlight. An A7 will shoot just as well. They are beautiful guns though granted - I'd love one.
I've owned 2 a-bolts and and have shot often with 2 sako a7s in different calibres. In terms of ruggedness and solidness the a-bolts win hands down. In terms of accuracy the sako a7 was awesome - but the a-bolts were shooting under an inch which is still bloody great for a hunting rifle.With the a-bolts (and more than likely the x-bolt too) you'll want to buy a trigger spring kit ($50) as they are pigs from the factory even adjusted all the way, whereas the a7's only needed adjusting. Personally - I'd take the a-bolt over a sako a7 purely on the feel factor. I've sold my a-bolt because I'm a mug, and have bought a winchester m70 extreme weather. I returned the first one before a shot was fired because I wasn't happy, but the 2nd one I've just picked up is much better. Time will tell weather it's a shooter or not though.
I personally considered an a bolt wayyy back before i got my bavarian until I handled one, I reckon they feel like toys! ha no offence. Havent had much to do with the X bolt but I've heard they're very similarQuote:
Originally Posted by Grunta
lol, no offense taken dude :)
It's always a personal preference. I'll never buy a tikka purely for the fact that they do feel like toys - yet I know they shoot great. I had the opportunity to grab my mates sako a7 at a reasonably price, but ended up turning it down because I didn't really like the feel either, yet I found the a-bolts nice. I bought a ruger american the other week at a good price and had seen that the reviews were good on them - sold it the following day because that really was a toy - the stock on them was something else - but what can I expect for the price that they are. The winchester I know own I really like except I don't like the bolt lift on it because i've been so used to the short 60 degree lift on the a-bolt. All comes down to personal choice and you'll go through a few rifles before you find what your looking for :)
see you in 25 pages of piss fights and endless nothing getting anywere ness!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by will16
X Bolt. Please note the A Bolt has been upgraded but has not been made available in NZ. We run an A Bolt but our mates X Bolt is a huge improvement especially with the detachable mag. H e has the latest Dan Can on it without any barrel chop but still nice balance though I personally would prefer an inch to be taken off.
Just so you know mate I was in H n F plamy north and theres a sako 75 wood S/S 3x 9x40 zeiss in 243 for 1700 id buy that second hand over the rifles you have mentiond could be well worth a look.
Hell yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neckshot
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Originally Posted by Bavarian_Hunter
im with this, 85s are not worth the extra 1k+ over a A7 unless you are into wank factor or a 100% into internet standards. $300 more than a tikka gives you a lot of extra and is well worth it.
That's very sensible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neckshot
Personally i don't see the advantage in a a7 over a Tikka other than being able to top load.
Action length is only a bonus if you want a short action caliber but then Tikkas are not exactly heavy even with the long action.
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When you say another rifle, does that mean you will have more than one hunting rifle or are you upgrading?Quote:
Originally Posted by will16
Im tempeted to buy it me self.............but im broke!Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
thought I saw Abolts around $1200 mark.
I own two Tikka T3's and have previously owned a Browning X-Bolt. Personally for that money, if you are looking at new, I would go the Winchester Model 70 Extreme Weather. Bloody nice action (control round feed) and comes with a B&C stock which I have on one of my Tikka's and love it.
I sold my X-Bolt due to endless troubles and very poor accuracy. Not saying are all like mine but I wouldn't buy one again. Shame really, as they are very ergonomic, look the biz and area nice to shoot. Grunta is correct with the triggers on them, shite until you replace the springs, then they are mint. I invested lots of money trying to sort the issues, but alas, only so much you can do to polish up a turd.
A-bolts I have never had much to do with but those that have them love them, same could be said with all the other rifles though. I just don't like the hinged floor plate / detatchable mag combo.
As for the Tikka vs A7, there are differences in the action and ability to top load. One thing that is common is they both almost always shoot exceptionally well. Triggers are great and no need to do any custom work. Just be careful with the A7 if you are going to use a bipod. There is a reason so many people own Tikka's.
TBH I would go into a well stocked store and try them all out for fit and confort when shouldering as that should play a big part in what you end up purchasing. The H&F store in Ashburton is quite a good one and the times I have been there have had good service. Ashburton Firearms & Sports on Moore St are good at doing deals also.
Well Said Bryan
Hey mate its been slow in the shop so i took the opertunity to bring all these rifles to the shoulder hers my two cents. I first took the ultimate shadow of the wall in 7mm08 good weight but the recoil pad sometimes get caught on my shirt but still comes into the shoulder well seems well balanced.A7 is nice but the stock is tinny but its still a sako!.A bolt in 7mm08 came into my shoulder really well and the palm swell on the pistol grip fit my hand really nicely and its a nice finnish.Tikka t3 is the lightest and other than no palm swell came into the shoulder the easyist IMO.If i was weighing up buying one of the rifles just mentioned for myself id be going with the abolt for the stock but thats how i made my mind up by trying them out myself............however my budget brought me a ultimate shadow:D hope that helps a bit ,get into the shops and give them all a whirl dont worry about the shop owners gert them to pull every one of the rack for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by will16
I have a Browning A bolt in .270 if anybody was interested. Only selling as I am heading over seas and cant take it with me :pissed off: the same for all my guns really. So if anybody was wanting the A Bolt, a CZ 455 with .17hmr and .22lr rifle barrels ( 5 shots through .17, none through 22) or a remington 870 tac (brand new, never shot) then let me know. Cant sell my AR as I would spend the whole trip crying.
I prefer the A Bolt to the X bolt any day. Nicer mag set up, feels like a proper rifle and shoots like one too.
Brother has a X bolt which is nice but features on A Bolt like steel captured mag etc still sell me.
I use a A7 in 7mm08 and know I will never need another weapon to satisfy my need for reliability, a comfortable weight, durability and accuracy. All at a fair price when compared to similar weapons on the market.