You can now 3D-print a DIY pistol in New Zealand for just a few hundred dollars - sho

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04-09-2018, 03:26 PM
Maca49

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Originally Posted by Rushy

I got about half way through reading this and thought what the fuck am I doing, I don't give a shit about this.

HOW ABOUT ONE IN titanium @Rushy
04-09-2018, 05:25 PM
Cordite

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Originally Posted by systolic

You can now 3D-print a DIY pistol in New Zealand for just a few hundred dollars - should we be worried?

US President Donald Trump tweeted on August 1 that he was "looking into 3-D Plastic Guns being sold to the public", adding that he "already spoke to the NRA," and that 3D printing a firearm "doesn't seem to make much sense".

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In 2014, Pennsylvania machinist Michael Crumling designed and built bullets specifically designed for the Liberator, which he called ".314 Atlas" rounds.

Atlas rounds have a much thicker casing than usual, as well as a lead projectile inserted deep inside the casing, somewhat like a cannon, rather than sitting on the tip of the casing.

The design mitigated all of the pressure of the explosion, channelling it out of the barrel - Crumling successfully fired 19 rounds of the custom ammo through a Liberator he had printed at home.

Trump summed it up pretty well.

As for the machinist, he is making ammo cases, really long cases, with a metal barrel lining included for the "plastic" guns. Duh!
This whole thing is a hysterical joke, like Russian hackers supposedly interfering with US elections!
04-09-2018, 08:29 PM
csmiffy

Aussie were absolutely freaking out about this. as far as the anti gunners are concerned they have the best firearms laws in the world with any attempt at easing met with cries of "what about port Arthur", the massacre that caused them.
This is the same country that banned silencers even for 22's so you can see how news worthy it would be.
Funnily enough a dude got caught in Sydney the other day with a bunch of firearms 060 odd I think)with some not available in aussie with no license.
I would suggest that they are an example of the ones that went underground during the buy backs but they don't like admitting that ever happened.
04-09-2018, 11:42 PM
timattalon

And the cops did not look for them when they revoked his license due to mental health issues?????? They only picked it up because he started buying flak jackets and combat vests.....Spying on people much?
05-09-2018, 05:47 PM
csmiffy

@timattalon its probably because they think they have it perfect and all sorted. As an ex firearms owner he was off the system.
Buying flak jackets etc probably bought him into terror watch group status. Way different animal.
05-09-2018, 06:12 PM
rewa

I was disappointed when I saw the first Stihl with plastic crankcases..its still going strong ,but in the back of my mind I always wonder. So Real plastic guns, have always been possible since that level of plastic technology has been around.
05-09-2018, 10:05 PM
timattalon

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Originally Posted by csmiffy

@timattalon its probably because they think they have it perfect and all sorted. As an ex firearms owner he was off the system.
Buying flak jackets etc probably bought him into terror watch group status. Way different animal.

Maybe. But as someone who they had taken his license from him rather than surrendering it, you would have thought that he did not lose his interest in guns and taking a license away from someone does not mean they will lose interest because someone said they had to. In fact it tends to reinforce that thye will do it anyway. Thus he should have been on their radar as they knew he was "into" firearms and was not allowed them.
05-09-2018, 10:21 PM
csmiffy

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Originally Posted by timattalon

Maybe. But as someone who they had taken his license from him rather than surrendering it, you would have thought that he did not lose his interest in guns and taking a license away from someone does not mean they will lose interest because someone said they had to. In fact it tends to reinforce that thye will do it anyway. Thus he should have been on their radar as they knew he was "into" firearms and was not allowed them.

Yup fair call. A lot of aussie have the same attitude as some Americans. Very distrustful of the authority and don't like being told what to do.
Ned Kelly is highly regarded over there and a lot would like to be just like him. Anecdotally there were a lot sold during the buyback before they got squashed as well as secreted away in a gesture against the whole thing
05-09-2018, 11:59 PM
Preacher

Yet one could walk into a $2 shop and buy a "knife" and yeah.... Nobody that wants to use a firearm for crime is gonna fuck around with 3D printing. Just go see your dodgy gang mates for a sawn off you fucken tech nerds.

Sorry that was meant tongue in cheek. But point remains the same.
06-09-2018, 06:27 PM
csmiffy

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Originally Posted by Preacher

Yet one could walk into a $2 shop and buy a "knife" and yeah.... Nobody that wants to use a firearm for crime is gonna fuck around with 3D printing. Just go see your dodgy gang mates for a sawn off you fucken tech nerds.

Sorry that was meant tongue in cheek. But point remains the same.

there are many shootings/driveby's in Sydney, sometimes several a week.
I would venture that the majority of the firearms used are neither legal or made on a 3d printer.
Nor would most of the shooters be licensed
06-09-2018, 07:08 PM
40mm

Might start importing bamboo bangers, that should get em worried.
06-09-2018, 07:16 PM
Cordite

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Originally Posted by timattalon

And the cops did not look for them when they revoked his license due to mental health issues?????? They only picked it up because he started buying flak jackets and combat vests.....Spying on people much?

Maybe more so on the radar as parts of Oz have laws against bulletproof vests... perhaps a hangover from Ned Kelly.

"Interference with lawful right to gun down"... not sure how the offense would be worded in court.

https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.co...-be-legalised/
06-09-2018, 07:36 PM
ebf

What a silly thing to be freaking out about...

3D printed firearms are a novelty. Unless you decide to invest 100's of thousands of $ on a sintering printer, whatever you produce will be pretty sketchy. Maybe with barrel liners etc, and some of the modern plastics you could make something reasonably functional, but still..

Compare that you anyone who has a metal lathe and some basic tooling, and you have the ability to manufacture something that is far more practical.

Stuff like zip guns or home-made shotguns are ridiculously easy to make.

Do even a cursory search on youtube, and you will learn how to make rifled barrels with very simple tools...

The entire thing is a non-issue.
07-09-2018, 04:17 PM
Nick-D

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Originally Posted by ebf

What a silly thing to be freaking out about...

3D printed firearms are a novelty. Unless you decide to invest 100's of thousands of $ on a sintering printer, whatever you produce will be pretty sketchy. Maybe with barrel liners etc, and some of the modern plastics you could make something reasonably functional, but still..

Compare that you anyone who has a metal lathe and some basic tooling, and you have the ability to manufacture something that is far more practical.

Stuff like zip guns or home-made shotguns are ridiculously easy to make.

Do even a cursory search on youtube, and you will learn how to make rifled barrels with very simple tools...

The entire thing is a non-issue.

100% man. Hysteria for the sake of hysteria. A slam fire shotgun can be made with a hacksaw, drill and screwdriver. Firearms are just one of those topics people can't have an objective and balanced discussion about. To much emotional investment
07-09-2018, 06:59 PM
Paddy79

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Originally Posted by Nick-D

100% man. Hysteria for the sake of hysteria. A slam fire shotgun can be made with a hacksaw, drill and screwdriver. Firearms are just one of those topics people can't have an objective and balanced discussion about. To much emotional investment

more like to much ignorance

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