Thread: Ziess HD5 or.......

Originally Posted by Danny

Try the VX6. Way better eye box imo than the shitty vx3i.
I've had the viper hs and at high magnification I thought them to be rubbish. Just try and look at a Z3 before either of the VX3i and Viper please...
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Agree, I have a Mk4 Leupold and a Vortex viper that both give quite bad tunnel vision, but have just picked up a VX6 3-18x44 and have used a mates VX6 2-16 and they are awesome!
Real easy to get behind, never have to hunt for the right eye position, the field of view is amazing and doesn't have any tunnel vision feel at all.
When comparing my 3-18x44 to my Vortex HST 4-16x44, when on the same magnification setting the Leupold FOV is noticeably better, not to mention glass is a heap better.

Originally Posted by Beetroot

Agree, I have a Mk4 Leupold and a Vortex viper that both give quite bad tunnel vision, but have just picked up a VX6 3-18x44 and have used a mates VX6 2-16 and they are awesome!
Real easy to get behind, never have to hunt for the right eye position, the field of view is amazing and doesn't have any tunnel vision feel at all.
When comparing my 3-18x44 to my Vortex HST 4-16x44, when on the same magnification setting the Leupold FOV is noticeably better, not to mention glass is a heap better.

Thats about what you would expect comparing a $950 Viper HS to a VX 6 at more than twice the price.

Originally Posted by sneeze

Thats about what you would expect comparing a $950 Viper HS to a VX 6 at more than twice the price.

Its a HST which is much the same as the PST. Which ain't much cheaper than the VX6.
The VX6 is just designed and built well, with FOV being something they must've put a fair bit of effort into. Unlike my MK4 or the Vortex HST/PST.

Originally Posted by Beetroot

Its a HST which is much the same as the PST. Which ain't much cheaper than the VX6.
The VX6 is just designed and built well, with FOV being something they must've put a fair bit of effort into. Unlike my MK4 or the Vortex HST/PST.

Yes agree the VX 6 is a better scope but you cant buy them for $1100 Like you can a HST. Can you buy a new VX6 3-18 for under 2K ?
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Originally Posted by sneeze

Yes agree the VX 6 is a better scope but you cant buy them for $1100 Like you can a HST. Can you buy a new VX6 3-18 for under 2K ?
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No you can't but the op stated looking at HD5 so price is already at the $1400-$1800 sort of dollars. Also looking at 2-10 range so once again the VX6 is the scope possibly behind the Z3 to consider.
The HST is far better than scopes I've used over years recently gone by but for the value and I recently paid $1400 the VX6 is a very good scope and definitely way better than a Viper.


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Originally Posted by Danny

No you can't but the op stated looking at HD5 so price is already at the $1400-$1800 sort of dollars. Also looking at 2-10 range so once again the VX6 is the scope possibly behind the Z3 to consider.
The HST is far better than scopes I've used over years recently gone by but for the value and I recently paid $1400 the VX6 is a very good scope and definitely way better than a Viper.


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Yes again, I agree the VX 6 Is a better scope for the OP.
The point I was making is simply that the HST isnt in the same tier of scopes so comparing it to a VX 6 is not apples for apples. They are in a different price bracket so you would expect the VX 6 to be better.

Originally Posted by sneeze

Yes again, I agree the VX 6 Is a better scope for the OP.
The point I was making is simply that the HST isnt in the same tier of scopes so comparing it to a VX 6 is not apples for apples. They are in a different price bracket so you would expect the VX 6 to be better.

And I obviously agree with you.

Originally Posted by sneeze

Yes again, I agree the VX 6 Is a better scope for the OP.
The point I was making is simply that the HST isnt in the same tier of scopes so comparing it to a VX 6 is not apples for apples. They are in a different price bracket so you would expect the VX 6 to be better.

But the glass on the HST is the same as the PST which is similar price to VX6. You can get the VX6 under 2K, but only now due to it being replaced.

My initial comment was due to someone saying Leupolds have bad tunnel vision, and agreed that my Leupold MK4 wasn't great (along with my HST) but the VX6 was brilliant.

Back on track, not having used a Z3 or HD5 I can't comment on them.
But the VX6 2-12 is a fantastic scope, the one I used had a firedot amd when used on 2X was extremely fast to pick up and could be used easy with both eyes open.