Thread: 15 minute season

These are typical Roosevelt heads as can be seen they are more clustered on the tops than the R M Elk

Originally Posted by Mooseman

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These are typical Roosevelt heads as can be seen they are more clustered on the tops than the R M Elk

As we can see, your sons head doesn't fit with either the Rocky's or Roosevelts. Rockys have longer beams and cleaner tynes. Sons bull has ridging on the beam and the beam is not round. The T5 tynes shape are not typical of Rocky's T5's.
Also the Roosevelt's Elk tend to have proportionately better trey's and often have Double Daggers like many of our Fiordland animals.
I still pick it as a hybrid Rocky / Roosevelt cross. In the '90s I did a big fencing job for a Roosevelt Elk stud on the Washington / Idaho border so got to see plenty

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

As we can see, your sons head doesn't fit with either the Rocky's or Roosevelts. Rockys have longer beams and cleaner tynes. Sons bull has ridging on the beam and the beam is not round. The T5 tynes shape are not typical of Rocky's T5's.
Also the Roosevelt's Elk tend to have proportionately better trey's and often have Double Daggers like many of our Fiordland animals.
I still pick it as a hybrid Rocky / Roosevelt cross. In the '90s I did a big fencing job for a Roosevelt Elk stud on the Washington / Idaho border so got to see plenty

Once again this is a young bull and as it ages the tines will change, I have seen pictures of Bulls shot on this property with dagger points as long as my forearm and double dagger. The treys in this area are always shorter than others I have seen even on older 50 inch bulls ,as you can see even though it is young it is starting to show the throwback of the RM Elk and not clustering of the tops like the R Elk.
You need to have a read up of the distributation of Roosevelt Elk put out by Environment Canada, I think they would know more than you or I.

Originally Posted by Mooseman

Once again this is a young bull and as it ages the tines will change, I have seen pictures of Bulls shot on this property with dagger points as long as my forearm and double dagger. The treys in this area are always shorter than others I have seen even on older 50 inch bulls ,as you can see even though it is young it is starting to show the throwback of the RM Elk and not clustering of the tops like the R Elk.
You need to have a read up of the distributation of Roosevelt Elk put out by Environment Canada, I think they would know more than you or I.

Rockys are not native to the Pacific coast, they are introduced. Given time the Roos will be moving back through their original range - they are adapted to it. Considering the time from when Rockys were introduced into Washington and other areas along the coastal states in the US it is highly probable that there will now be hybrids. If there are bulls with double daggers on the same property that is an almost certain prooof of Roo blood as Double daggers are very rare in Rockys. First photo is a bull of mine as a two year old. Second photo, same bull at nine. This bull has some Fiordland blood and shows the double dagger form but modified with some Red blood in him too.

Very big heads, it was a god read also.