Thread: Climate

I am loath to touch on anthropogenic climate change as it is one of those topics that people cannot debate without deriding and mocking of any view not considered 'mainstream' We see it here in this thread.
But anyway, I know that some members consider me a 'conspiracy theorist' for views that I have proposed. Bearing this in mind I 'set up' some of the members who rather than asking for science jump straight into mocking. So the subject of geo engineering was raised by me followed by the usual derided mocking..... until I copied a presentation to the UN calling for restrictions on the current geoengineering programs because they were causing an increase in Aluminium and Barium in vegetable crops.
What really rankles me regarding all the climate change 'Science' are the continuous attacks on agriculture. I have been writing to Greenpeace regarding their stance and they have finally admitted that they are using 'Gross Emission' figures from models not 'Nett Emissions' This paints the incorrect / false picture of agriculture being our largest GHG emitter and takes pressure off fossil carbon release.
I fully agree that Nitrogen contamination of waterways and groundwater from agriculture must be reduced but using gross emission figures does nothing to encourage farmers to move to more sustainable practice.
Our forests likely release more CH4 into the atmosphere than our livestock. When I suggested to Greenpeace that following their rational of reducing methane from livestock to save the planet greater gains were to be made from draining all the wetlands and felling the Amazon basin forest which by itself emits 50 - 60 million tonnes of methane into the atmosphere annually they threw their toys.
The point being that all of the science needs to be considered and not just what the media provides.
In the Netherlands the farmers protests go on. These protests are not because of reductions in nitrogen fertiliser caps / limits but because 3000 farms have been forcibly confiscated by the govt under the guise of meeting EU Nitrogen caps. This is not a conspiracy theory.