Thread: Climate

Originally Posted by Maca49

If we went fishing I could trade my two stroke pollution with your trees? That’s if it ever stops blowing on the lake

I MAY have some tree carbon to spare Mind you, I buy 2 stroke oil by the 20 litre container, so I am trying my hardest to get the equation back to zero

Originally Posted by akaroa1

Global Climate Change is not the weather where you are at a particular point in time.

It is global trend and it is not a consistent value across the globe.
But when all the data is accumulated it shows a trend and it is irrefutable, unless you live under a rock or bridge, in which case you won't believe in the science anyway

Or change the methodology for measuring the temperature.

Originally Posted by XR500

For those on the fence, jump in a plane on a nice day and fly the length of NZ. Look out the window, and EVERYTHING you see out there moving, is moving cause of diesel or kero. Lets forget about petrol cause its tiny in the scheme of a nations carbon footprint.

Fishing boats, Cook strait ferries, container ships, jet air liners, dozers, diggers,tractors,freight trucks, stock trucks, trains (except some of the elec commuter ones in Wellington). Everything relies on Diesel. And not even one percent of that stuff can be done by an electric vehicle. Efficiently. Effectively. Fontera has gone woke with their silly EV milk tanker (x2). Its in the workshop more than its out collecting milk. Its not permitted to go into the hills surrounding its depot. Its about twice as expensive to operate than the trucks that DO spend 10 hours a day, day in day out in and out of the hills collecting milk. They have also gone woke on their coal boiler. Ripped it out and put in a wood pellet boiler. All that's done is shunt their CO2 footprint out of their company and shoved it onto the freight companies that have to deliver 6 truck and trailer loads a day of wood pellets, instead of the one coal train per fortnight.

The western world doesn't want to go back to living in the middle ages, halving our life expectancy, half the population working by hand 12 hours a day just to grow/harvest food.

The third world wants our standard of living, and who can blame them.

Only 60-70% of oil gets burnt to power stuff. The rest gets converted into the 6000 items that have become indispensable to all our daily lives.

I don't see a rational conversation about resilience or preparedness. All I see is myopic children in a bouncy castle screeching "listen to me or we're doomed. Do as I say" (not do as I do)

hear hear .and with all due respect grandpa mac youve got your opinion Ive got mine and occasionally if i choose to express it a little differently does it really cause you that much anguish????

I recon us humans should reverse the way the world spins that should fix it..

We've tilted it a bit aparantly with artesian water usage.

Originally Posted by XR500

For those on the fence, jump in a plane on a nice day and fly the length of NZ.

Thanks mate! Every day in an attempt to maintain my mental acuity and stave off the onset of dementia in this old man’s head, I solve several Sudoku puzzles. This morning though I am trying to work out how to get on a plane while sitting on a fence. I have no answers yet but will keep trying. Ha ha ha ha.

I try to be "aware" of how much and where I spend the Earth's resources that come my way, whilst still living a first world lifestyle - in NZ we are truly blessed.

I've made some modest changes to the way I think and live out of respect for the future of our grandkids, and encourage and assist others to do the same - for example if you're traveling somewhere to a shoot maybe, share the travel!

Those who evangelize these sorts of arguments (on both sides of the equation) get no respect from me.

Originally Posted by blip

I recon us humans should reverse the way the world spins that should fix it..

Shouldn't be that hard. We added a extra hour of daylight to each day with daylight saving.
(I actually know a guy who thinks that happened)

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

depends on if "yours " includes a tinfoil hat does it not????

because if you look at it from far enough away.....believing someone has a conspiracy is conspiracy in and of itself.

thus its just easier to say someone is talking a load of utter bullshit and be done with it.

Bit what if the person who believes in a different line of bullshit to yours is not wrong, does it make your line of bullshit right...? It's all perspectives and belief structures that get challenged makes it hard for people to accept a paragdeim shift

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Originally Posted by blip

I recon us humans should reverse the way the world spins that should fix it..

Funny that you should say that @blip. I was reading about the effects of the ice caps melting and apparently when that happens in the next warm period the extra mass at the equator will slow the earths rotation enough to extend the day length by some minute fraction of a second. Only a minute step toward reversing rotation but a step none the less. It does come with the unfortunate side effect of raising sea levels by around 70 metres.
Regards Grandpamac.

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

Shouldn't be that hard. We added a extra hour of daylight to each day with daylight saving.
(I actually know a guy who thinks that happened)

And that’s a good thing, a few more hours in the day to save the plant.
If we want to change the spin, we all have to run in the other direction at the same time.
But with the earth spinning, remember the speed your travelling at right now in this vacuum of space

Originally Posted by grandpamac

Funny that you should say that @blip. I was reading about the effects of the ice caps melting and apparently when that happens in the next warm period the extra mass at the equator will slow the earths rotation enough to extend the day length by some minute fraction of a second. Only a minute step toward reversing rotation but a step none the less. It does come with the unfortunate side effect of raising sea levels by around 70 metres.
Regards Grandpamac.

Which makes me think about the forces at work and how stable they are, and remember, the lots going to be devoured in a black hole

Im the kind of person that likes to keep things simple. The simple problem is humans just cant help themselves and have to have a fuk with everything. So with this supposed warming the earths surface is basically a giant heat sink from the sun no amount of tax or govt policy is going to change that as much as the population thinks it will. If we think back there was still a lot of poloution as industry relied on burning coal etc. Without sounding like a tree hugger and getting back to this gaint heat sink nature had it all figured out on how to regulate it very simply....trees they shade the surface of the heat sink as well as insulate it. And then the know all fukwit human comes along has a fuk with it and upsets the balance of it all. Then we try and come up with a scientific explanation for this basic simple cause, and now we have all been convinced that if we hand over money to someone else they are going to fix it for us....

Originally Posted by grandpamac

Greetings @Moa Hunter,
I am sure it will look quite natty. You could also add slogans that I am sure @Micky Duck would help you with. Please post photos of the construction and design for those that may wish to add one to their wardrobe.
Thanks and regards Grandpamac.

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C...EQjJkEegQIEBAC
Quite like the one with the antlers