Thread: Day & Night gear freak.

A couple of forum members and I went over to the east coast for 2 nights. Them with all their trad gear and me loaded up with tech stuff. I hunted by myself - not that they shunned me - but thats how I like it. We had 3 evening hunts and 2 morning hunts, going back to the hut in the middle of the day for a bite and nanna-nap.

its a place where there are always deer so with the fairly new Sytong 50mm spotter I was expecting to see a few... but it was far better than that. The thing was freaking amazing. Day and night. I was an early user of thermal spotters and have had what I thought was a good Guide 50mm which recently packed it in - but this new one is next level. I saw dozens of deer, everywhere, in places I expected to see them and some places Ive never seen them. I smile to myself about thermal spotters now being legal on public land and people on YouTube now revealing them who I know have been using them for years. Like a parade of gay chaps "coming out".



Anyway, I just observed the deer the first evening hoping maybe there was a decent stag around. That is our rule, only shoot the outstanding stags and leave anything with potential (although for some silly reason we shoot spikers, justifying it by saying "there are too many"). The next morning I was out before first light and as per the previous evening saw plenty through the spotter but left them - it just seemed too easy. Bella was with me and this is where we sat until about 7.30am.



From here Bella and I sidled around the edge of the next basin and as we crested a little rise she froze and stared intently down hill. I moved next to her and peered through the scrub and could see a spiker 80 yds down the hill. I had already touched the "on" button on the modern scope and was ready to go. I actually had time to sit for the shoot at at the blam deer went everywhere. Five at least. Bella is a very steady pup but she skipped around me with excitement at the sight of them all. I waited five minutes before I let Bella lead me down to find the deer. It was about 50 or so yards down the hill from where I shot it. Quite dead. Bella was very pleased.



The 'scope is a Sytong HT70 day night with ballistics, range finder and IR. The rifle a Kimber 257R. The scope is next level (as is a Arken Zulus I have too). Excellent both day and night.

I loaded of the meat shelf on my new-ish Initial Accent pack and headed for the top. It was steep but not difficult. This modern gear is pretty damned good.



Later in the day Bella did the same thing again; locked up staring and when I drew up to her there were 6 deer in a little basin feeding, about 80 yards again.

The last evening I resolved to get another deer for the charity (I wanted 2). It was drizzly and cold. I turned down a few 'cos I was certain that I would get one on dark. But as dark drew in I hadn't got one. Time for plan B. I staked out a nice clearing on a steep face and started scanning with the thermal. Twenty minutes before the loss of normal shooting light I could see 2 deer working their war down through the thick scrub to the clearing, but they stopped 50 odd yards short of it. I waited. Well after dark I could see one through the thermal right on the edge of the clearing. Still in the scrub. I flicked the 'scope on and the IR lit it up. I could just see its spindly head, neck and shoulder. 164 yards the range finder said. Too easy. Blam, and it dropped. But it thrashed around so when it was still for a moment I gave it another. Silence.

It was dark, I was wet and Bella was keen. So off we went to get it. I went up the wrong spur to start with but after some sidling and thrashing around Bella got keen and took me to it. The .257R had done a good job. Second big carry for the new pack. Half way back I wished I had loaded the shoulders on too 'cos it was so comfortable.



The other 2 shot 3 with their tatty old gear so obviously that still works. But I was pretty damn happy about being a thoroughly modern man. And aided by the oldest of hunting devices. The dag.

Good stuff
This is the way forward for bush hunters

What a machine - and thats just the man!

I have just bought my first thermal, it is amazing what they show you.

Almost feel like my binos are obsolete technology almost? Which is weird because i really love being in good country and spending a few hours glassing!

Its amazing how and where they show up now, but this ones beats the cake. 2 years ago I was selling some subdivided lifestyle blocks. An interested prospective buyer came and demanded to be driven too the highest hill. We got there and he proceeded to pull out a thermal and scan all the neighbouring land for animals... We didnt sell too him.

Originally Posted by Tahr

A couple of forum members and I went over to the east coast for 2 nights. Them with all their trad gear and me loaded up with tech stuff. I hunted by myself - not that they shunned me - but thats how I like it. We had 3 evening hunts and 2 morning hunts, going back to the hut in the middle of the day for a bite and nanna-nap.

its a place where there are always deer so with the fairly new Sytong 50mm spotter I was expecting to see a few... but it was far better than that. The thing was freaking amazing. Day and night. I was an early user of thermal spotters and have had what I thought was a good Guide 50mm which recently packed it in - but this new one is next level. I saw dozens of deer, everywhere, in places I expected to see them and some places Ive never seen them. I smile to myself about thermal spotters now being legal on public land and people on YouTube now revealing them who I know have been using them for years. Like a parade of gay chaps "coming out".

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Anyway, I just observed the deer the first evening hoping maybe there was a decent stag around. That is our rule, only shoot the outstanding stags and leave anything with potential (although for some silly reason we shoot spikers, justifying it by saying "there are too many"). The next morning I was out before first light and as per the previous evening saw plenty through the spotter but left them - it just seemed too easy. Bella was with me and this is where we sat until about 7.30am.

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From here Bella and I sidled around the edge of the next basin and as we crested a little rise she froze and stared intently down hill. I moved next to her and peered through the scrub and could see a spiker 80 yds down the hill. I had already touched the "on" button on the modern scope and was ready to go. I actually had time to sit for the shoot at at the blam deer went everywhere. Five at least. Bella is a very steady pup but she skipped around me with excitement at the sight of them all. I waited five minutes before I let Bella lead me down to find the deer. It was about 50 or so yards down the hill from where I shot it. Quite dead. Bella was very pleased.

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The 'scope is a Sytong HT70 day night with ballistics, range finder and IR. The rifle a Kimber 257R. The scope is next level (as is a Arken Zulus I have too). Excellent both day and night.

I loaded of the meat shelf on my new-ish Initial Accent pack and headed for the top. It was steep but not difficult. This modern gear is pretty damned good.

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Later in the day Bella did the same thing again; locked up staring and when I drew up to her there were 6 deer in a little basin feeding, about 80 yards again.

The last evening I resolved to get another deer for the charity (I wanted 2). It was drizzly and cold. I turned down a few 'cos I was certain that I would get one on dark. But as dark drew in I hadn't got one. Time for plan B. I staked out a nice clearing on a steep face and started scanning with the thermal. Twenty minutes before the loss of normal shooting light I could see 2 deer working their war down through the thick scrub to the clearing, but they stopped 50 odd yards short of it. I waited. Well after dark I could see one through the thermal right on the edge of the clearing. Still in the scrub. I flicked the 'scope on and the IR lit it up. I could just see its spindly head, neck and shoulder. 164 yards the range finder said. Too easy. Blam, and it dropped. But it thrashed around so when it was still for a moment I gave it another. Silence.

It was dark, I was wet and Bella was keen. So off we went to get it. I went up the wrong spur to start with but after some sidling and thrashing around Bella got keen and took me to it. The .257R had done a good job. Second big carry for the new pack. Half way back I wished I had loaded the shoulders on too 'cos it was so comfortable.

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The other 2 shot 3 with their tatty old gear so obviously that still works. But I was pretty damn happy about being a thoroughly modern man. And aided by the oldest of hunting devices. The dag.

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Brilliant.
Funny you talk about thermal users "coming out". It's totally true. I know a few people who never talk about the thermals they obviously use.
You should post a few photos on the Thermal Photos thread, or put some in your posts. Always good to see and compare.

Originally Posted by whanahuia

Its amazing how and where they show up now, but this ones beats the cake. 2 years ago I was selling some subdivided lifestyle blocks. An interested prospective buyer came and demanded to be driven too the highest hill. We got there and he proceeded to pull out a thermal and scan all the neighbouring land for animals... We didnt sell too him.

Haha what a cheeky bugger

Awesome @Tahr , and yep it looks like the future for a lot of people , not having using or handled one ,is the scope is all the way back because you put the eye into the cup ? and that must have a fair bit of movement to take up the recoil ? It does look a little weird but obviously functions well .
Also the scope doesn’t appear to have turrets , where are the adjustments to sight the rifle in ?

@Shearer That trip. Ranges 250 (top pic) through to 400-ish (bottom pic). Not sure what mag but likely base mag. First pics I've taken with it. All day time, 2nd to last pic evening. None in the dark. The date stamp is wrong - setting that is the next challenge.

Originally Posted by Tahr

@Shearer That trip. Ranges 250 (top pic) through to 400-ish (bottom pic). Not sure what mag but likely base mag. First pics I've taken with it.

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It's almost like cheating

Originally Posted by Lucky

Awesome @Tahr , and yep it looks like the future for a lot of people , not having using or handled one ,is the scope is all the way back because you put the eye into the cup ? and that must have a fair bit of movement to take up the recoil ? It does look a little weird but obviously functions well .
Also the scope doesn’t appear to have turrets , where are the adjustments to sight the rifle in ?

@Lucky The adjustments are done through a menu using buttons. The menu comes up in the screen.
Your eye is against or near the rubber eye piece. Its purpose is to block light out. Its perfectly useable without the rubber eye piece but because they have a short eye relief you risk getting smacked in the eye with the recoil. Its Ok with the .223 and 257R without the eye piece but I use it anyway.

Cool pics of the deer through the thermal, I took some shaky footage of a deer in the Oroua last weekend almost by accident

Originally Posted by Sika 8

Cool pics of the deer through the thermal, I took some shaky footage of a deer in the Oroua last weekend almost by accident

Going through them I see I took quite a few by accident getting my fingers on the wrong buttons.

Yep buttons that do multiple things can be tricky but i've got the hang of it now, pretty intuitive once you get it.

Probably helped with all hours spent trying to capture a fart through the thermal with my kids

Originally Posted by Sika 8

Yep buttons that do multiple things can be tricky but i've got the hang of it now, pretty intuitive once you get it.

Probably helped with all hours spent trying to capture a fart through the thermal with my kids