Thread: Hunting in France. Differences to NZ. Just for reference

Thanks dudz, interesting read, I'd love to visit France hopefully will be able to get there in the next few years.
What part of France were you living in?

I visited the UK in September and went for a walk one morning in the Cotswolds, was keeping my eyes peeled for any wildlife an happened to spot some Roe deer is a paddock.
It's amazing to see wild game living so close to villages and main roads, quite different than NZ.

Well like I said earlier, Im not here to change things , but it is frustrating when all your life you are used to being able to walk almost anywhere. Like you say about bridal paths... My missis has ridden horses all her life. In England never needed a float (or horse box) nor in France. in fact in France she got on her horse right outside the door, and rode for 20kms without crossing a road. I used to do the same with my 280 Sherco trials bike. Can even ride horses on all the country roads in Europe and 'most' cars respectively slowly overtake. I love the countryside, especially the fields and walking freely through them with my dog . Now we are here the dog stays in the garden and I look across the fields wondering if there is public access anywhere ?.. May not sound like a big deal to most people, but its sure hard to get used to for us.
@Beetroot ... Ive got a permit for hangawera hills, and do you know Ive been around here for 12 months and I still dont know where the access is
Lived in Bretagne (North West)

Originally Posted by dudz

No worry's Shootm . Theres always one complete Knob that thinks he knows better. I lived there and raised my children there, and know a heck lot more about French life than he does obviously. I have many French friends. Hes a tourist nothing more. Did I say I used to hunt with them ?? no... I never have hunted with any French person, that was just a blind assumption of yours. But I know them and have drank beer with them. You are just a complete cock

Never hunted with a French person yet you assume that there all drunk after a 2 hour lunch! Hence the comment about tarring your fellow countryman with the same brush.
And you call me a cock? Guess that’s your blind assumption. I’ve hunted there and lived there so no not a tourist that would be another one of your blind assumptions! You also state that the law changed last year in regards to military calibers are NO it was 2013.
So from saturday (7th September 2013) the caliber than you can not use are : 50bmg, 14.5x114, 223, 7.62x39, 5.45x39 and some caliber under autorisation as: 45acp and 9mm para.

All the other one are allowed.

So the 308, 30.06, 303 etc, you can use them for stalking and driven boar in France.

The smallest caliber allowed for the hunt is still the 222. For the semi automatic rifle it's still the same: maximum 3 shot (2 in mag and 1 in chamber). and still no moderator on any rifle.

Any other questions?

Originally Posted by dudz

Well like I said earlier, Im not here to change things , but it is frustrating when all your life you are used to being able to walk almost anywhere. Like you say about bridal paths... My missis has ridden horses all her life. In England never needed a float (or horse box) nor in France. in fact in France she got on her horse right outside the door, and rode for 20kms without crossing a road. I used to do the same with my 280 Sherco trials bike. Can even ride horses on all the country roads in Europe and 'most' cars respectively slowly overtake. I love the countryside, especially the fields and walking freely through them with my dog . Now we are here the dog stays in the garden and I look across the fields wondering if there is public access anywhere ?.. May not sound like a big deal to most people, but its sure hard to get used to for us.
@Beetroot ... Ive got a permit for hangawera hills, and do you know Ive been around here for 12 months and I still dont know where the access is
Lived in Bretagne (North West)

Email doc. Or have a look on the doc maps. Or even the doc website page about the place you have a permit for.

If that's no help. Check the walking access commission website. They'll tell you paper roads and normal roads you're allowed to go on.

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I have read Dudz initial post, and I will try my best to bring all the corrections and misinterpretations on the subjects that he talked about.
I am just gathering the info at the moment on the subject.

@dudz if your wife is still into horse ridding try this https://www.sportwaikato.org.nz/dire...pony-club.aspx

Originally Posted by oraki

It has caught on.... I’ve got a couple of fellas who when confronted told me that they’ll walk where ever, and whenever they want. Pointed out it’s private property, and they wouldn’t like it if I walked through their backyard. They told me to go for it, but don’t think you’ll make it out. When I went to the cops, they basically told me to suck it up, it’s not worth the grief that’ll come out of it. It’s to easy for them (well not them, but prospects)to damage the tractors, headers and crops down there. After that yarn I had with them, a car was doing slow drive bys of the house for week afterwards.
Just turning a blind eye to it now, and barred the boy from going down there by himself.
Not ideal, but just can’t be fecked with the potential fallout of it.

I feel for you, it's terrible that you come out the loser in all this and if the Police get involved you would likely end up in a worse position.

If I were you I would make sure an official complaint was laid with Police and you have a copy of that.
I'd also try record all conversations you have with the Police, whether that be email trails or jot a few notes down and get the cop you are talking to to sign it, along with their name and QID number.
That way if thing escalate and you find yourself on the wrong side of the law you have proof that you laid complaints with the Police at every incident, and have proof that they said they weren't going to do anything about it.

I'd get some cameras installed around yards and shed too.
If things hit the fan (which hopefully they wont) you need as much physical evidence as possible.

Originally Posted by oraki

It has caught on.... I’ve got a couple of fellas who when confronted told me that they’ll walk where ever, and whenever they want. Pointed out it’s private property, and they wouldn’t like it if I walked through their backyard. They told me to go for it, but don’t think you’ll make it out. When I went to the cops, they basically told me to suck it up, it’s not worth the grief that’ll come out of it. It’s to easy for them (well not them, but prospects)to damage the tractors, headers and crops down there. After that yarn I had with them, a car was doing slow drive bys of the house for week afterwards.
Just turning a blind eye to it now, and barred the boy from going down there by himself.
Not ideal, but just can’t be fecked with the potential fallout of it.

Pay someone to burn the car at their place

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Pay someone to burn the car at their place

From his comments I gleaned that their place is probably a compound.
The people there wouldn't take to kindly to anyone being there and are organised enough that it would almost have to be a military exercise to work.

I have had an offer to make ‘the problem go away.’ Then you owe someone else can’t be bothered.
Burn the car... is on camera when it was driving past, the number plates were different each time.
Make official complaint. I said I want it of the record what had happened. He said if he wrote anything down, it had to be investigated. Back to square one. I work odd hrs and at night the nearest cop is 1/2 hr away.
They were locked up a while back but are floating around again... pun intended
Used be holiday homes and kids were allowed up to the first bridge in the creek. Now it’s full of dopers growers and nohopers who we are feeding their habits through taxes.

Anyway, once harvest is off, it’s someone else’s problem. Going through the contracts now. He’s looking at taking out the trees and putting in a pivot, so their spot will be exposed.

The cop did suggest we be irresponsible one year when burning off. He said ‘don’t put a firebreak in and what for the right wind. Hopefully wipe them all out, do everyone a favour. ‘

Originally Posted by GDMP

I despair for the future of this country,with some of the people in it......you can't act,the law refuses to act.....so therefore you are essentially in a situation where there is no law and its just mob rule....

no because you can guarantee that if YOU acted then the Police who have been so helpful up till now would be charging you rather than actually sorting the issue out in the first place

I too despair and often wonder who you should call if you have a need for "actual' help by actual trust worthy people

Originally Posted by dudz

Well like I said earlier, Im not here to change things , but it is frustrating when all your life you are used to being able to walk almost anywhere. Like you say about bridal paths... My missis has ridden horses all her life. In England never needed a float (or horse box) nor in France. in fact in France she got on her horse right outside the door, and rode for 20kms without crossing a road. I used to do the same with my 280 Sherco trials bike. Can even ride horses on all the country roads in Europe and 'most' cars respectively slowly overtake. I love the countryside, especially the fields and walking freely through them with my dog . Now we are here the dog stays in the garden and I look across the fields wondering if there is public access anywhere ?.. May not sound like a big deal to most people, but its sure hard to get used to for us.
@Beetroot ... Ive got a permit for hangawera hills, and do you know Ive been around here for 12 months and I still dont know where the access is
Lived in Bretagne (North West)

The explanation is in our immigration policy. Think in terms of 'open door' and it's been that way for 25 odd years. NZ as we knew it is gone and it's all about greed and every bugger for themselves prevails now.

Originally Posted by outlander

The explanation is in our immigration policy. Think in terms of 'open door' and it's been that way for 25 odd years. NZ as we knew it is gone and it's all about greed and every bugger for themselves prevails now.

we had better hope it doesn't become like England has. Its only taken the last 10 yrs or so to become a completely different country. Not going to open that conversation.

Originally Posted by dudz

we had better hope it doesn't become like England has. Its only taken the last 10 yrs or so to become a completely different country. Not going to open that conversation.

NZ is on the fast track down the road the UK took.
My in laws emigrated from the UK about 12 years ago, they look back at what they left and what NZ is today and wish they had stayed.

It's extremely sad seeing NZ turn to shit, but in the last 5 years I've seen so many changes for the worse it's hard to see where it's going to end, totally agree with the greed and every bugger for themselves mentality.
I just hope for my future childrens sake that I've got in early enough, as the way I see it now unless you have wealthy parent's who sit comfortably in the middle class you are pretty much screwed.

Originally Posted by GDMP

I despair for the future of this country,with some of the people in it......you can't act,the law refuses to act.....so therefore you are essentially in a situation where there is no law and its just mob rule....

Really this how the world has always been. A white middle class person of Anglo Saxon decent might consider that everything is wonderful in the world whilst at the same time right beside them a coloured person might feel oppressed and subjugated. The 'Law' is really only there to protect the interests of the wealthy and influential individuals