Couple episodes filmed in NZ by Steve (Meat Eater on Netflix)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...cWxVfnpSXc9dRk
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Couple episodes filmed in NZ by Steve (Meat Eater on Netflix)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...cWxVfnpSXc9dRk
Didn't find the episodes great especially it being private land if I remember right. Doesn't represent real NZ hunting.
I listen to his podcast and on a whole he's not exactly a big fan of the NZ hunting scene. Mainly as he sees either high fence or us call everything a pest and use it as an excuse to do what we want when as I do think it's a bullshit excuse that that's why we hunt. As if that was true us hunters would be happy when animals are wiped out. Better to be honest and say while controlling populations is a benefit we hunt because we enjoy the challenge, the terrain, the meat, etc.
Met Janis is Montana got him kind of convinced to come back and do a real NZ hunt. Although I told him I do wish we charged for overseas hunters to come here.
Shit somehow I hadn't seen the Tahr episode or the pig hunting I might watch them now. I enjoy Remi Warren and got some good advice for hunting Montana from his podcast but his NZ hunts do seem to ofren fs a our private land down otago for Fallow.
I thought it was ok, I would have however shot both stags....but that's me
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I haven't watched the NZ episodes (will do now though) - but I have watched the last 3 seasons - I can see some of the reasons they may not like the NZ hunting scene, some of them I agree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stocky
Steve is pretty big on fair chase - so would be against a lot of private land shooters (or public poachers) who spot light / use thermal etc. Private land that is deer fenced holding animals in is something he is hugely against - not talking farmed deer, wild deer that are confined to someones farm.
There is not much in the way of game animal management in NZ (exception is Wapiti), partly because of the pest classification - but also because some with the attitude to go out to kill as many as possible / everything they see.
There is a lot of waste with many hunters in NZ when it comes to butchering and packing out - some only take the heads, so many just take the back steaks, maybe back legs - watch the butchery they do on the show and there is very little wasted - it's all packed out - I believe this is law in most States.
Some of the other reasons they would be at odd's are just the way they have been brought up as hunters where they have tags - are more selective as they are only able to take a regulated number of animals each season, and it must be a specified gender, in some cases a certain level of maturity etc In NZ it's often the first animal seen is going in the freezer regardless of age/sex etc. Something to consider is that hunters in America invest in game animal management - they buy tags for animals, they pay 5% tax on all hunting goods that goes to animal management - in NZ most hunters get wound up at this idea and believe its their right to take what they can (based on social media reactions anytime someone suggests a hunting licence).
There are differences in NZ because all game animals here are introduced species and classified as pests, however I do think we could take some lessons from overseas and look to manage our resources better.
Pig hunting was excellent
I imagine he had (maybe even paid for) permission to shoot one stag.Quote:
Originally Posted by HNTMAD
I would say soQuote:
Originally Posted by Dorkus
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Watched the videos, liked them. Wasn't aware of his views on NZ hunting, but suspect I would agree with him!
If you look closely, you will see a bit of barbwire fence near his head in the background as he is stalking the stag. But as long as it is free range ....as the American hunters say, it is fair chase.
Trying to work out where the red stag hunt is the country looks very familiar
Agreed, best episode there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
Seems like he enjoyed himself a lot and there was a real sense of being out on the hunt, not 'stage managed' at all like some of the rifle hunts you see in other places (he did an episode in Scotland which was crap, and he later admitted on a podcast that he hated it!).
I think my exact words were "fucking shoot it"Quote:
Originally Posted by HNTMAD
Same bwahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Bill999
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At the start of the episode I'm pretty sure he says he's hunting on a private ranch that Remi Warren guides on during the American off season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Friwi
That second Stag was a ripper! The one he shot was nice but that second one was huge
I have a lot of respect for Steve and his ability to articulate a hunters perspective. I think it would be fair to say he doesn’t have a good grasp on the way things are here and our own challenges we face. Rightly so too, he is after all much more involved in the american/overseas scene then ours. Would love to see him back here again doing a real wild backcountry hunt. With some more education on NZ he would probably appreciate our options much more.
EDIT: I would have bowled the other stag too haha
Been binge watching Meat eater episodes on the tube since last couple of days, thanks to Diwali off. Loved the pig hunting episode. If those stags were on private land what $ they go for?
Would love to get me a set of nice racks sometime in non Covid future.
He also filmed in Scotland
https://youtu.be/YF_ULw51CGE
Hey it’s all edited out later, I would have too! But I respected him for not shooting it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HNTMAD
He Recovers ALL of the meat and said he had the rest of the day packing it out with the one stag. That second stag was in his prime and carried a top notch head so better to leave him as a breeder regardless. Come back and take him when he's grey on the muzzle.
After the fording of the glacier river on the Tahr hunt he's earnt my respect. Even with the chest waders, the cold from that glacier water with chunks of ice going past would penetrate to the marrow - the bones would be aching like they were broken.
Yeah that was something else. I was getting shivers seeing him wading that river. He is so different than average yank hunting program host, no high fives, no over the top celebrations. I subscribed to Netflix just to watch his show (I did not know its on the youtube) .Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
I hope he stays as he is now and doesn't F%(k up one way or another and be my hero to look up to always.
I've actually been really surprised how many great US hunting channels there are on YouTube. Been an eye-opener to me. I was one of those blinkered folk who thought most hunted from blinds beside a corn feeder. But seeing some of the elk and muley hunting at 11,000 ft plus etc with lightweight gear has really opened my eyes and realised how ignorant I was.....
I would recommend having a read of his books they're really goodQuote:
Originally Posted by Inder
Cameron Hanes is pretty awesome bow hunting as well - the guy is a machine and he hunts some impressive animals with a 90lb bow.Quote:
Originally Posted by bumblefoot
Thanks Shadowsol, Will take a look. I downloaded his podcasts yesterday, good listen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowsol
-Inder
I see in the comments on Youtube that this was actually shot a few years ago....
Yep that is you. I have a mate like that. His common phrase on the hill as the gunfire fades in to the distance is "shit, what have I just done". :D That second one was a cracker and I think in that situation most people would have............. "Turn that bloody camera off", fumble, fumble, rattle, clatter.........BOOM! :D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by HNTMAD
In his book american buffalo he packed out the buffalo he killed in Alaska in pack rafts and damaged his feet quite badly. I think he said it was six months till the nerve damage began to come right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
Meat Eater ? Rinella?
Years ago he was in NZ, Remis been there for a while an is proberly over it now days with all the Tahr destruction.....
Yeah, Not sure there is ONE kiwi who wouldnt have shot both Stags and any other stags that they didnt see, Especially if a bachelor group ! OHH brooo Velvet antlers lets eat em up
it is good the oldest meat eater episodes are comng onto free to watch youtube,. thats reeal good viewing with alot of message. the adventure is real in most episodes, and wa without doubt the biggest influence for me taking on the sthern alps.... an world :D
The Tahr one was very good, you wouldn’t have got me wading that river, the stag one was ok, private land probably had to pay for it but I do admire his values and the way he portrays hunting.
i didnt wanna say that but i rekon thats exachery why that big stag wasnt shot... the other likely passed as a "management" stag for a good kiwi gesture, set up by remi... haha only assuming..an ya know what they say :DQuote:
Originally Posted by outdoorlad
His cooking shows are pretty good as well,got a lot of shit from his mate joe rogan for eating a monkey though..his banter is top notch..