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An Ameriacan vet for 30yrs who has seen dozens of moose in the wild.He knows what he saw,lucky man.
Well we can but live in hope the species does hang on.
So according to Doc, moose couldn't make it from Supper Cove to the Rainbow Reach bridge in 115 years? Why can't they just say it's possible instead of insulting the American vet who knows what moose in the wild look like?
Yeah because DOC know everything about moose. Let's believe what they say over someone who actually knows what they look like and has seen them before
I was told a few years ago that apparently moose cannot browse above their head like a red deer can, so in the Supper Cove area the moose would find it difficult to feed due to the red deer numbers and lack of undergrowth. Maybe over the 115 years they have been forced to move to areas where there are less red deer in order to survive. Conjecture but plausible.
The article uses a photo that was part of a hoax that was also accepted at the time. Grounds to be sceptical.
Moose pictures a load of bull
Back in the day there were sightings toward Manapouri and Doubtful. After the Lyes bull as well. Its definitely possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducksnchips
ohhh come on yeah there's a UFO base out here they come over each night - same thing - how old is this moose have to be at leat 80 yeah really did it have sticks photos nah bull shit factor yes - people claim all sorts for a readQuote:
Originally Posted by Oscar
The only way to be believed if you actually were to see a moose in fiordland (assuming there were still some to see) would be to shoot it and then have the carcass delivered to relevent people with the blood still dripping off it.
Then someone might almost believe you!
to believe that one could see a moose in Fiordland means you need to believe that a moose can live for in excess of 75 years plus - or a viable population of moose have lived there undetected for the last 75 years - no proof exists simple as that - no photo zilch - yes seen photos of supposed browse lines nah no photos no DNA evidence nothing -- now UFO.s
I still believe in Santa...
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Originally Posted by Barry the hunter
There was DNA evidence from samples submitted, back in 2001/2002: https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3501...g-south-island
All the evidence over the years suggests a few animals that had hung on but were declining in number over time. The evidence in the recent decade or so has been a lot less compelling, and some has been a hoax or just wishful thinking, unfortunately:
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Bunji is tracking it as we speak
Who doesn’t? He is every bit as real as the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottrods
Bunji shot the bugger and will report in due course what he tasted like
Ben Young said he saw one out of a Helicopter in 2020 , he was /is a hunting guide in the U.S so he knew what they looked like
Can't be true he doesn't even have the same surname as his wife :wtfsmilie:
Maybe you guys should check face book bound to get to the bottom of it on there
Gotta love a moose thread :)
Who does.lolsQuote:
Originally Posted by Happy Jack
Moose are big animals. They shit and they leave prints. If they know exactly where it was, perhaps they could look for some more evidence?
Ken Tustin would know more about Fiordland moose than anyone and he doesnt have conclusive evidence that moose still survive there.
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Originally Posted by Sauer
I have seen them stand on their hind legs like a feral goat. I have fixed plenty of ornamental trees ruined by Moose browse too.
Most Moose sceptics in New Zealand have never left the country either,the closest they have come to any Moose was onto of a fucking ice cream Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
Is there still a $100,000 bounty for a pic?
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Originally Posted by norsk
deep in a hidden valley in our Fiordland Norsk is a lost tribe who worship the moose called the fuckarewe -they originally are said to have come from a remote country called Vorvay - they are said to have a last pet moose a reminder of their homeland - hunters at night have heard their plantive calls on the wind wherethefuckarewe wherethefuckarewe
A mate has a few Kaka on his farm in Marlborough. Rand Doc to tell them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducksnchips
They told him: “no you don’t, that’s outside their range”. He said ok you know best, and hung up.
Tell them nothingQuote:
Originally Posted by Lauries Hut
Ask to be surrounded by 1080Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
I'll bet there will be a pile of DOC activity in that area soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
I'd like to think there were a few hiding out down there (Moose, not DOC), unlikely, but who knows.
No it isn't, the photo in the article is genuine, it was taken by Max Curtis in Fiordland 1952. It's quite famous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar
There was more than one photo in the original article - but usual honest MSM, they've deleted it without notice. They had the photo in the the link in my post about the hoax, it even fooled KenQuote:
Originally Posted by John Duxbury
one photo shows trees in back ground certainly look more Alaskan than Fiordland
He has a photo from 1999, and moose DNA from 2001 and 2002.Quote:
Originally Posted by fawkes
Then you have Ben Youngs sighting from 2020, and now this one in 2025.
Moose have very large territories and there were sightings of them as far north as Big Bay and East as the Eglington, all during the "accepted" period that moose were around in Fiordland. So whoever they asked for a quote at the DOC office doesnt know much about the subject.
Frankly, someone will have to shoot one for it to be believable, a photo wont do it, in this age of fake news and manipulation people dont even believe photos any more. They may not even believe a dead one.
It is interesting that an experienced North AMerican saw this animal and described it confidently as a moose: Americans are quite familier with elk and if he was going to mistake a red deer for anything other than what it is, you would think it would be an elk.
The Herald have disappeared the hoax photo from the article, and haven't left a footnote to say what they did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry the hunter
It was Ken that busted that other photo as a fake it should be pointed out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar
Last year Ken Tustin said he hasn't seen any sign of moose still existing in Fiordland since 2015, last time he saw possible browse. Wonder if he saw any in the past 12 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Duxbury
It was surprising he wasn't sceptical from the off, looking at the trees in the background. At least they didn't end up in his book.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Duxbury
https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/southl...iordland-moose
