Moose

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Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

there is only way thing sure about that photo its a piss poor camera

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$2 shop camera.

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Originally Posted by John Duxbury

Thats the conclusion I came to, the only way people will believe is if one gets shot and the carcass gets dragged through Tuatapere or Te Anau behind a Land Rover. The people will come out to look, holding burning torches and suchlike, like its a dead vampire.

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I wonder what it would take to convince people moose have died out in Fiordland, if not now then one day?

I doubt there is anything, so Schrödinger's Mooses will live forever.

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Originally Posted by MarkN

Firstly - I am no authority on what a Deer/Moose/Elk/Caribou/Eland/Donkey looks like.

For curiosity's sake I took that photo and blew it up and enhanced the contrast - pretty messy, a few points:

A/. curved back, noted

B/. webbing to groin area, prolly normal to all?

C/. nose/muzzle

D/. eye area

E/. these dark blotches seem to me, to be bush in the background rather than part of the animal

F/. over to you.... :)


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Well one thing is for sure, the photo is less than good. The appearance of a large rump, shoulder hump, and dark color lead me to think is could be a moose, but impossible to be sure. A "maybe" at best. Moose don't have a webbed groin, not sure what your other arrows are pointing to.

could also be a horse looks a bit like it

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Originally Posted by Carl 9.3x62

Well one thing is for sure, the photo is less than good. The appearance of a large rump, shoulder hump, and dark color lead me to think is could be a moose, but impossible to be sure. A "maybe" at best. Moose don't have a webbed groin, not sure what your other arrows are pointing to.

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When you combine it with 2 moose DNA samples a few years later, the odds of what it is are strongly towards moose.

One thing is for certain, there ARE moose bones in Fiordland!

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Originally Posted by Gibo

One thing is for certain, there ARE moose bones in Fiordland!

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Found in the same ashes as the Moa bones?

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Originally Posted by Oscar

I wonder what it would take to convince people moose have died out in Fiordland, if not now then one day?

I doubt there is anything, so Schrödinger's Mooses will live forever.

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You seem to be wilfully ignoring a recent sighting by a reliable eye witness. :D Two recent eyewitnesses actually, counting the chopper pilot in 2020. (That was always the thing people said - "how come the chopper pilots dont see one" then a pilot does see one, and it doesnt matter anyway...)

If you want proof, someone has to make a better moosetrap to catch the moose.

one thing that does suprise me no one reports having heard one - I believe bull moose are vocal but zilch nothing at all reported

Ray Tinsley heard cow calling in the Dusky Sound area, 1970's. Its the females that call, the bull moose grunt.

I thought I heard one once two years ago, early in the roar in South Westland, but I have kept that from Oscar. Dont tell him.

Lets not forget the sightings of the Southland Otter...........

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Originally Posted by Friwi

If you want proof, someone has to make a better moosetrap to catch the moose.

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Elephant trap for a big bull moose is needed.

no what we need is someone with a decent camera or to shoot one and then we have proof every thing else is rumour

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Originally Posted by John Duxbury

I have heard its much like venison, coarser grained. The last one shot was in about 1971 by Gordon Anderson, a commercial meat shooter. Before that was a bull in 1952 by Percy Lyes, a deer culler. Others were shot in the 1930's. Some certainly undocumented as well, and some by fishermen over the years.

I should take Ken Tustin my copy of his book and get him to update it with a pen on the back page with the helicopter sighting in 1920 and this new one in Keppler.

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You mentioned Gordon Anderson..Gordon ,myself and another mate were well into finding,shooting and selling things with four legs lol ..I believe I have put up a pic or three with Gordon &co back in the day..he sure did drop a female moosey back then.