Ol’ Man And A Boy.

After having a few problems with the body breaking down on me, I thought I had it sorted. Back pain gone (to a manageable level), shoulder on the mend, and hip rehabbed. Been on a bike for 6 months getting some sort of fitness back. I reckon I’m the fittest I’ve been for 20yrs. The lad has been out with mates conquering mountains around the area, and having some success filling the freezer. Was honored to be invited on abit of a wander( although the main reason was to drive him).
Arrived at the spot 0430 and set off following markers, had a river crossing 400m in (deep enough to freeze the jewels) and carried on upstream. Spotted a white fallow buck and some spikers, but were on the wrong side of water, and not target species. Saw some promise 1 1/2 hrs in.
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5-6 tahr had crossed over not long before us, stones and sand still wet. Feeling lucky we cracked on aiming for a likely looking area. Another couple of nut dunks had us roughly there.
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Started climbing, body holding out, keeping up with the young buck........

Until knees started to give out. He carried on up and I started glassing while giving the knees a rest.
Anyway, long story short, nothing in our basin, fallow and reds on other side, but out of reach for today. He skirted along the tops, while the ol’ boy sidled, knees getting worse. I made the call to abandon and started dropping, while he checked out the next gut.
Was a battle for me to get back, considered ditching gear, but managed to get back with a couple off sticks helping.
He never saw anything and caught up just before the ute.
I think I’ve blown the next invite chasing tahr for a while.

Who else has knee troubles, and what’s your secret to keep them going. Nurofen and Voltarin kept them under control the following days, but would prefer not to use them. The legs and stamina were fine until they let go.

Might have to just pack a fishing rod as well for the next time, and hope a silly one wanders past on the easy stuff to keep some sort of credibility

I take Brufen SR before I go, while I'm there and when I get back. Plenty of it. Gets me through with some pain but tolerable. Im not scared of taking it. When Im done Im done. Far better than not hunting.

Get a pair of trekking poles. They take a huge load off the knees.

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Originally Posted by mimms2

I read the title and thought this would be about the catholic church...

Voltaren is diclofenac? It's accumulative so you basically need to be on a course of it - start taking a few days before you're going out. But keep in mind pain is your body's way of telling you to back off.

Brufen stuffs with your muscles lactic acid production, I wouldn't recommend for frame-pain.

Eat well. Try dropping gluten.

Yoga or Tai Chi are good for a multitude of reasons.

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Yeah, I used to get a lot of cramp when on Brufen. I now take zinc too which seems to contra it. Also diabetic so eat minimal carbs and sugar. Get by ok though.

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Originally Posted by stug

Get a pair of trekking poles. They take a huge load off the knees.

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I’ve got some, but in the rush to track down “my” gear which had been ‘borrowed ‘ the previous couple of months, I clean forgot them. I was hoping that the work I’d done fitness wise, it wouldn’t have been to much of a drama. To many years jumping off roofs, haystacks, truck decks and cabs is starting to catch up.
Wish I’d taken more notice of the ol’ timers who told me off for doing so.

Notice to all you young spikers out there..... listen to the ol’ boys. They know what they’re on about

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Originally Posted by Tahr

Yeah, I used to get a lot of cramp when on Brufen. I now take zinc too which seems to contra it. Also diabetic so eat minimal carbs and sugar. Get by ok though.

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Ha Ha, "Get by ok though", Luv it, your such an inspiration Tahr, you do far better than "ok"!!

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Originally Posted by stug

Get a pair of trekking poles. They take a huge load off the knees.

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^^^ good advice right there! ^^^

Oraki...
What you need is a shot of synvisc in the knee, certainly worked for me sir....

Cheap at $900 for an injection from sportsmed. Easily affordable for an over paid wealthy tanker driver such as yourself.......

Turmeric works really well for joints. You can buy it in pill form (not the best) or add the real deal to your food (heaps more effective). There is something in the cooking process that activates the turmeric to make it more effective.

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Oraki...
What you need is a shot of synvisc in the knee, certainly worked for me sir....

Cheap at $900 for an injection from sportsmed. Easily affordable for an over paid wealthy tanker driver such as yourself.......

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...cough, cough, pfft. If only you knew ;)

Overworked and underpaid..... thought you’d know that.

Get some of this and have one every night with tea.
I tried joint pills,turmeric, magnesium,fish oil,glucosamine and was taking enough diclofinac to give me stomach problems.
None of it did piss all other than the diclofinac.
Then I found this and I dont bother with any of that other shit now.
3-4 days and you will feel the difference.
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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Get some of this and have one every night with tea.
I tried joint pills,turmeric, magnesium,fish oil,glucosamine and was taking enough diclofinac to give me stomach problems.
None of it did piss all other than the diclofinac.
Then I found this and I dont bother with any of that other shit now.
3-4 days and you will feel the difference.
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I’ll see if I can track some down

a few of the guys at work must be getting the same or something similar.
seems to help going from hobble to an upright walk

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What you need is a shot of synvisc in the knee, certainly worked for me sir....

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a few of the guys at work must be getting the same or something similar.
seems to help going from hobble to an upright walk

Brufen sr works better than nurofen or Voltaren prescription only though. Won't fix arthritis or joint decay but stops it swelling up and keeps the pain at tolerable levels.

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Originally Posted by mimms2

If you took as much nurofen as the Slow Release (sr) dose you might find different. SR is 2-4 times as much of the active ingredient.

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The Dr has increased my dosage of the SR over the last couple of years. 800mg now and he says don't be afraid to take an extra one a day if its bad.
Im off to Tekapo for a weeks hunting tomorrow so I'm likely to rattle when I walk.

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Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Brufen sr works better than nurofen or Voltaren prescription only though. Won't fix arthritis or joint decay but stops it swelling up and keeps the pain at tolerable levels.

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by mimms2

If you took as much nurofen as the Slow Release (sr) dose you might find different. SR is 2-4 times as much of the active ingredient.

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Yes but it isnt released all at once like the little tablets but rather over 8 or so hours. Doctor started me on 3 800mg tablets a day 2 in the morning and one at night for a week than down to 2 for 2 weeks, now 1 a day. Its certainly not turned me into a ballet dancer but boy have I got some movement and quality of life back .

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Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Yes but it isnt released all at once like the little tablets but rather over 8 or so hours. Doctor started me on 3 800mg tablets a day 2 in the morning and one at night for a week than down to 2 for 2 weeks, now 1 a day. Its certainly not turned me into a ballet dancer but boy have I got some movement and quality of life back .

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Im the same. 1 800 a day and an extra if I need it. If I have a big carry in front of me I sometimes pop the one extra before I haul my pack on.
It makes my knees and hands bearable and eases the lock-fingers.

In the end I 'suppose they will all need to be replaced :) My brains in good order though because its never been used :)

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Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

I frequently have discussions with a tanker steerer I know (@striker) (being a dry stock farmer I feel it is my duty to do so). He says exactly the same as you.
I have him on about being over paid and under worked.

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Steve’s been in it long enough now to realize it’s not as easy as you outsiders think. It’s not all milk and pie shops ya know

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Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

Have you tried velvet?
When I was shearing I was getting arthritis in my index finger from holding a handpiece all day. Started taking velvet and it went away. If I stopped taking it the pains would gradually return. It was never a "wow it's gone" type fix. Just gradually disappear.

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No actually its one of the few things I haven't tried.
Come to think of it Dad takes it too.
Expensive?

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The greenlip are a great natural antiinflammatory which is what the diclofinac is.

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Yeap my knees are rooted, both been reconstructed and the left one is about rooted again which will eventually mean a joint replacement probably, surgeon told me after both reconstructions "you might get ten years out of them, if you look after them..."
Carried a fat as fallow buck for a bit last night and the knees certainly felt pretty unstable and had a few good "Clunk!" Out of them
Trekking poles, voltaren emulgel, and a jab with hydrocortisone every couple of months keeps them going for now

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Originally Posted by striker

a few of the guys at work must be getting the same or something similar.
seems to help going from hobble to an upright walk

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This isn’t just after having a discussion with the boss is it :)

Nope, just that we have a few walking wounded at the moment.
Shoulders, Elbows, Knees and Back get looked after first and foremost.
The others if rebuilt just slow you down a bit, the first 4 stop you solid

Remember the thread I started on 'Are we eating the right bits' ? This was what I was on about, eat the leg cartilage and save the trimmed silver skin from the backsteaks etc and put it in the bag with the casserole meat. Eat the shanks etc. We need to consume 12 - 15 grams of collagen per day to make a difference.
The reason velvet deer antler helps is because of the collagen it contains in combination with growth stimulants like IGF1 these stimulate the body to absorb the collagen - so taking velvet + sinew + Ginseng = very good.

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Originally Posted by oraki

I’ve got some, but in the rush to track down “my” gear which had been ‘borrowed ‘ the previous couple of months, I clean forgot them. I was hoping that the work I’d done fitness wise, it wouldn’t have been to much of a drama. To many years jumping off roofs, haystacks, truck decks and cabs is starting to catch up.
Wish I’d taken more notice of the ol’ timers who told me off for doing so.

Notice to all you young spikers out there..... listen to the ol’ boys. They know what they’re on about

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Haha cant put an old head on young shoulders as I was told when a much younger man.Also be carefull of too much can screw kidney function I know it has mine,could be just me maybe:)

Ooooops that should read to much Voltaren :D