Thread: Poor bugger

Noticed this bald spot on a venison and put it down to me dragging it 500mtrs across rocks then when boning it yesterday found this broadhead in its back steak must have being bloody uncomfortable still razor sharp

Jesus

I really font like bowhunting for similar reasons. Everyone I have met thinks they are a cross between Robin Hood and Rambo.

Did you notice if the animal was moving freely? Looks like it had been there a while?
No sign of the arrow?

It is bloody amazing what these animals will survive/live and damn near thrive through - I am constantly amazed by what people report or we find come break down time after the shot...

Plenty of three legged deer have been shot in top condition. Seen stags with only one back leg still holding hinds. But by crikey that would bring new meaning to pain in the back....you did it a favour.

Originally Posted by norsk

Jesus

I really font like bowhunting for similar reasons. Everyone I have met thinks they are a cross between Robin Hood and Rambo.

Plenty of terrible rifle hunters too.

Easy to criticise from the couch.

Have you ever wounded an animal and not been able to recover it?

If the answer is 'No' then you have not done much.

Equipment can malfunction and errors be made, same as with rifles.

The accuracy and lethality of a modern compound bow or crossbow within 50-70 yards, along with expanding broadheads on carbon arrows, cannot be questioned. An arrow or bolt shot from 60lbs+ and over 400 grains will plough through 'bullet-proof' glass or kevlar vests.

What archery does require is a lot of practise and fine tuning. I still hold national records and have won national championships with a compound bow, but have not shot one in about 8 years due to work commitments.

Would I pick one up tomorrow and go bowhunting if was legal in the UK? No. Would I start shooting arrows again? Yes.

Originally Posted by caberslash

Plenty of terrible rifle hunters too.

Easy to criticise from the couch.

Have you ever wounded an animal and not been able to recover it?

If the answer is 'No' then you have not done much.

Equipment can malfunction and errors be made, same as with rifles.

The accuracy and lethality of a modern compound bow or crossbow within 50-70 yards, along with expanding broadheads on carbon arrows, cannot be questioned. An arrow or bolt shot from 60lbs+ and over 400 grains will plough through 'bullet-proof' glass or kevlar vests.

What archery does require is a lot of practise and fine tuning. I still hold national records and have won national championships with a compound bow, but have not shot one in about 8 years due to work commitments.

Would I pick one up tomorrow and go bowhunting if was legal in the UK? No. Would I start shooting arrows again? Yes.

Piss off you wanker.

How many deer have you hit in the back with a Rifle and had run off?

Exactly.

Not the back, but someone near my place has left 3 running round with shot off legs.

Your characterisation of bowhunters sucks and is more naive lack of knowledge or thought than anything else.

Oh and Ive also seen rifle hunters, including myself, shoot a deer a touch too high, have it drop, and then get up and run away.

Not as savage but still intriguing.
Didn't have anything to do with the broadhead. Just found it after we shot the animal. Adds to the trophy.

Originally Posted by norsk

Piss off you wanker.

How many deer have you hit in the back with a Rifle and had run off?

Exactly.

Very naive but also expected response.

Originally Posted by whanahuia

Not the back, but someone near my place has left 3 running round with shot off legs.

Your characterisation of bowhunters sucks and is more naive lack of knowledge or thought than anything else.

Oh and Ive also seen rifle hunters, including myself, shoot a deer a touch too high, have it drop, and then get up and run away.

Craig

Bow hunters are only rivaled by Vegans in the ignorance of their practices.

You are jumping to huge conclusions about my knowledge of hunting,

Funny thing is I grew up hunting not far from your Dairy farm. Have your heard any stories about Johhny Dudley? He died before you moved to Ikamatua but he was a bit of a legend.

Originally Posted by caberslash

Very naive but also expected response.

Look forward to your NZ hunting pictures.
Or any pictures for that matter.
Carry on pal.

yes amazing what they can recover from - one evening at lake Waikaremoana one of our guys hit a red hind with his toyota tercel ran around the front as it was temporarily pinned - but it jumped up and ran of limping badly - about a year later I did an evening stalk thru the bush near where it had been hit and shot a 3 legged hind - back leg of at knee joint - bugger of a carry out - but she was only 700-800 yards from where she had been hit - was fat as to -

I've been fortunate enough to guide some amazing bowhunters over the years, and the time and effort to hone their art is freaking amazing. Sadly we all have the odd hiccup when hunting, whether it be with a rifle or a bow. Just goes to show the amazing tenacity of the game we hunt.

When I was guiding in Canada, we were able to get on to a rather large moose, watched it for most of the day and finally was able to take it late in the afternoon when it finally stood up for a feed. When we were taking the cape off, no easy task on a moose, we found a hole in to its skull between the antlers that was about the size of a tennis ball. As we cleared the cape around the pedicles that hole started oozing and the white gunk that came out was more than a cup, bordering on maybe 2 cups. We kinda worked out that the moose had suffered a stabbing type wound from the tine of another moose a week or 3 prior and it had festered. It was in to the skull! And that bull was doing all the right things for a bull in the rut, answering to cow calls, wandering his patch and roughing up the local greenery, bellowing as he came in to the horses. He covered about 3km in the day we stalked him, beeded down and chewed his cud. I have no doubt he would have survived no problems had we not taken him. Game animals are bloody tough, and a broadhead through the back steak, while not the desired outcome, would have probably worked its way out in time and the deer would have carried on as per normal.

Originally Posted by norsk

Craig

Bow hunters are only rivaled by Vegans in the ignorance of their practices.

You are jumping to huge conclusions about my knowledge of hunting,

Funny thing is I grew up hunting not far from your Dairy farm. Have your heard any stories about Johhny Dudley? He died before you moved to Ikamatua but he was a bit of a legend.

Yeah I know. You bought a chainsaw from him. Mike, you are judging all bowhunters on your experience with one guy.

I have said this before, and Ill say it again. In all my time taking people hunting at my old place, I had more wounded animals from the rifle shooters, than I did from the bowhunters. There are reasons for that Including experience, And sure there are the odd guy who probably shouldn't have a bow. But the same can be said of rifle hunters too.