Comprehensive test by 4wd Action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld1bMp5Hh1I
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Comprehensive test by 4wd Action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld1bMp5Hh1I
Well as it fails the first requirement of being a ute and the second requirement of being a 2020 model I doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mimms2
No Mahindra, Foton, Ssangyong or Great Wall.
Would have been interesting to see how they went
:D:D
Should have guessed that Shitsabishi won.....given VC has one :D
Or maybe it was just the best alround 4x4? not like I payed them to say it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
Mines a 2wd tho or I would just fuck it 4wding, I do enjoy overtaking wildtracks up hills.
Well yes of course thats simple physics.Quote:
Originally Posted by mimms2
It was only a few years ago I had a worked 91 cruiser with triple dif locks that would and has towed safari's backwards in a tug of war on concrete.
But my mq is the faster, quieter,more economical safer way to tow my boat or anything else.
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They needed to do the tradie test. I had a new hilux and I couldn’t drive it with my steel caps on. No room under the clutch pedal and no foot rest. And I couldnt put the seat back far enough to make I comfortable. They are made for wee people with small feet.
And I imagine in Thailand one company makes the looms for Fords, Mitsis etc s.etc so maybe a lottery where the duds end up.
After owning 3 Mitsi cars and utes I swore I would never buy the brand again (and I wont as far as their cars go) but having said that I like the look of what the latest ute offers.
Sean Whale (I think he lead the review) and those other reviewers I have found after watching a lot of their video clips are not bullshit artists ie not your average motoring journos who are wined and dined by the big bands and then write accordingly.
If Whale and Co were biased they would have nudged the scoring more towards Toyota and Isuzu.
John Cadogan also gave the Mitsi a good review and if you have ever watched his clips he is beholden to no brand is Oz.
Mitsi's are underrated utes. It's an entertaining review video, actually using them as 4wd's. That's a first!
Just watched. Very well thought through and comprehensiveQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
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And I'm sure @cambo could tell us in pm a million Hilux horror stories.
Nothing is perfect.
You just dont get it do you, @mimms2 has a bigger dick that you....or is a bigger dick.....now im confused ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
He is just stuck in 1990 [emoji849]Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
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We are all stuck in an earlier age at heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Bit early for these new Hilux's to be proven worthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottrods
There are some issues which are happening to some but thankfully not a lot.
Need a bit more tweaking yet.
I was always told to never touch a new model of anything. Wait till they've produced a few "face lift" models with all the niggles tweaked out
True... interested to hear them say the D-Max is proving v reliable out at 200k - that is what's important.
As a longtime 4x4 clubber I'm not overly impressed with a test of tradie utes in offroad conditions just once when new. I would like to see how chassis/drivetrains etc stand up to the tough offroading in a 4x4 club over several years before praising performance too much. Not many of these new utes in 4x4 clubs as yet... and would certainly not be my choice to do tough offroad tracks eg 'stamper' in its heyday, or coast-to-coasters like 'slab hut creek'.
Yep which is where the Mitsi is at now,5 years in its current engine which was proved ten years previous in smaller displacements.Quote:
Originally Posted by cambo
Yep its not everyone who will put a 40-80k ute into any serious 4wding, but with engine,gearbox,suspension experts on test with years of experience with all of the brands youd struggle to find a better test surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by mudgripz
In ten years time a test of the same again may or may not show some differences but that wont help a new buyer then.
I, like alot of other clubbers question whether these utes have the durability to sustain ongoing harder offroading. They are big, wide, long, quite heavy and often have poor angles. The single test can be somewhat misleading re reliable 4wd use.
In this test, (if I remember correctly) the winning Triton suffered chassis bending in its first real trial??? What?? Replacing a wheel bearing to be expected, but straightening the chassis after each challenging trip??? :)
No not in any trial I am aware of.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudgripz
There are reports of a company fitting massive camper bodys to Tritons in Aus and them being overloaded (naturally) and bending the chassis.
One could say it was unlucky to be the best value brand.
And I wouldnt expect to replace a wheel bearing on anything new for the first 100k
Wheezy smokey asthmatic limp engine....even in the 1990s it was gutless compared to the 1hdtQuote:
Originally Posted by mimms2
You (personally or financially) won't have to with the warranty!Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
If you go into offroading as a motorsport for the decades you will certainly be doing regular wheel bearing changes.
Why - because you will be doing mud terrain tracks with deep bogholes. The first truck in maybe alright as the water, is clear but after that the holes are very churned up with alot of suspended solids which will get into everything in the truck as your mudgrips spin for traction. Wheel bearings are a club joke ... we experiment with different greases etc but they are still common repairs - as can be alternators/starter motors in this type of mud challenge terrain.
Yes certainly I was reasonably regularly doing starters, alternators, center bearings, calipers and slave cylinders,pads and shoes, disks and drums,cvs,diffs,springs,bushes,ball joints and even the occasional wheel bearing (only ever rears) on my LN106 but that was because its use was as you describe....lots and lots of deep water and mud.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudgripz
so pretty much constantly replacing wearing parts, id expect you would be pretty much constantly replacing wearing parts with a new vehicle too with the same useage.
none of that test would convince me to buy any of them, they added points on for possible mods to make it pass better....
i'd take the vw anyday.
Currently driving a 2012 Ranger in a manual. I like it and like it a lot but won't be getting another one. I'm old school and while having owned several auto vehicles I'm always drawn back to manuals. Since Ford have dropped the manual option in Rangers this will be my last.
It makes me laugh that most parents want their children to learn to drive a manual but won't buy one so they can, go to Europe or the UK and manual far exceeds auto still.