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Ok, so apparently I am in the market for a injection pump, rails and injectors (x5) for a 3.2L Duratorq motor as fitted to the 2013 era BT50's and Rangers. This particular one is a Ranger 6-speed manual for what that's worth.
Where would be the best place for these parts? Roughly an $8K job at the service agent, I'm not sure it's worth investing that in a 9-year old ute. Interested in parts prices though... Cheers
get a new engine. low kms second hand is a better way to go?
Unsure, haven't investigated but would suggest it would be a lot higher cost wise and a lot of second hand engines are not moved as a drop in unit - you get a long block and are expected to swap parts out in my experience.
Or a Mazda? Unfortunately nothing else survives engine wise. 2L twin turbo grenade young, even the hilux didn't live through 100,000km. This failure was the result of dealer not following instructions from 2013 to alter the servicing schedule to a more frequent one so not really the fault of the engine or the design - if it wasn't fuced up by the workshop likely wouldn't have failed. Problem is now what to replace it with, the only option is looking like the 3L V6 diesel which means another Ranger.
have a look on ebay.com.au e.g https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...pump&_osacat=0
More frequent serviceing is probably not gonna help the longevity of your pump and injectors unless you constantly put dirty fuel in it/run it on waste oil etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by No.3
Thanks for that, interesting... When you add shipping+import, about the same price as local... Hmmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by yerimaginaryM8
Which is the piss off - only filled off commercial sources. Mostly large cities - only a few backwaters but all commercial suppliers. At the low mileage it's travelled it shouldn't have suffered this failure - and no real explanation forthcoming apart from filtration failure or servicing clusterflucks. With the numbers of post service driving home bonnet popups on this vehicle and number of times I've found FOD left under the hood I have no idea why I didn't ditch them years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
FOD.......??? sorry what is thisQuote:
Originally Posted by No.3
BT50...............enough said.
I picked our one up after a leaking injector and by the time I got home the thing was boiling its nuts off as EGR cooler had failed for the second time in 2 years.
Was towed back to local Stealership and fixed then traded in, never came home
Fuck I'm glad I got a 2006 sheep shagger!
Not selling any time soon.
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Foreign objects that dumbarses leave behind. I'm up a screwdriver and a bunch of unused cable ties so far...Quote:
Originally Posted by tac a1
They have their own pet problems. Personally would never have another Hilux after dramas I've had in the past - engine was about the only thing that didn't fly to pieces. I don't think any of the new generation vehicles are perfect - the thing I'm going to really hate is the Govt mandated roll out for biofuels and especially biodiesel. Be OK if its a 5% blend of actual cracked biodiesel but if it's the tallow blended fat brews and not proper 'biodiesel' I'll eat my hat if these new diesels will run on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
I'm really interested to see how the new EV utes go as tow vehicles as an interest thing - ev traction motors can keep piling the torque on as the load goes up and can fry batteries and even themselves through overheating and excess current draw. But man they can pull just prior to the magic smoke escaping! A bit of an aside from the current issue I have to be fair though.
How many ks has it done?Quote:
Originally Posted by No.3
if you fix put in a second fuel filter/water trap as the rail is under such high pressures that any amount of water getting in can ruin the fuel system. I have a similar motor my my defender and put in a racor 230r like this since I got it.
https://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/Filt...ete/FRC-230R10
Learned from family in russia who run transits fulltime 24 hours a day in a transport firm. Stopped fuel rail problems immediately
120 - far under what it should have (0 km travelled over lockdown didn't help that though to be fair). It's the result of too many teething issues that I ended up having to fix myself. As I said, not a vehicle fault but dealer service end just not having the required experience and performing to what I would expect as a standard. And not doing the extra servicing at my cost as agreed at purchase time - finding that out was a real slap in the face. I'm probably old fashioned in that when things are agreed that is what I expect will happen - and when I find out that it's not happening it really pisses me off.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
In the old days of mechanical injection 100k would be typical for an injector service new nozzels and check preasures 80-100 bucks each.Quote:
Originally Posted by No.3
Then there was the D4D Toyota that ate injector seals every 40-80 thousand and if not replaced the cabon build up blocked the oil intake and lunched the engine.
And now it seems pretty much everything if it gets one drop of water in it the whole system is fucked and costs 8-12grand to replace.
We certainly have come a long way.
What has caused the pump failure is it water or something else?
Unsure, had a dose of bug through it recently but the issue had been occuring for over a year but in every other scenario operates fine with no issues. It's had a failed tank sender lift pump replaced in the past which might have contributed to increased wear and at this stage it's basically looking at the last components group left that could be contributing which is injectors and injection pump. No water present, but had a very slight amount of bug - fuel filter should have been replaced at every service per my request but wasn't so missed an opportunity to possibly prevent it.
I am continually stunned at the pathetic size of the current crop of 4x4 ute fuel filters. Whatever happened to primary and secondary fuel filters??? I used to fit primary 10 micron fuel filters that the medium expanded and blocked the passage of any water. That would starve the engine and it would die. The secondary fuel filter went down to 2 micron.
Its almost as if the manufacturers want shit to get through to the common rail:wtfsmilie: