Second chopper rescue attempt fails, 36 remain trapped in four-wheel-drive trip in Central Otago | Stuff.co.nz
Theyv been looking for an excuse to permanently close this track... this would do it...morons driving up there in these conditions
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Second chopper rescue attempt fails, 36 remain trapped in four-wheel-drive trip in Central Otago | Stuff.co.nz
Theyv been looking for an excuse to permanently close this track... this would do it...morons driving up there in these conditions
Thought it was a bit strange to head up there with the predicted forecast
Yep. Right in the guts of my hunting block. Muptards is all I can say.
(our hunting block kidmac:)...wonder how long there vehicle,s stay there !
:thumbsup: Excellent word! And very appropriate.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidmac42
Probably til the thaw mate. They will be stuck in the bogs on the top south end.
It'll be a fucken mess now. Air force chopper in pioneer park now.
The brainless bravery of some is interesting to say the least. I've been on a few large-convoy (i.e. Plus three vehicles with unknown muppets driving some) and I won't do it again. Some seem to completely forget any safety briefing, and the concept of "let's turn back" is an unknown idea
In fairness I'm sure there are some experienced drivers who've done their best. Money is on though that you only need a couple of drivers who play by their own rules to chew up ground, and create problems.
Let's hope all are safe, and the reputation of the activity isn't tarnished too severely.
this is there reputation lol 13 4wd,s on that track after all the rain & snow can only imagine what it looks like at the mo
Hunters are no different to be fair.
I cannot count the times we told people that the weather is going to be terrible not to go in and that we wouldn't risk our own necks, to go get them out of the bush, if it gets to boring for them in the tent.
Drop them off against your better judgement and a couple days later they beg for a flight out.
Even had some assholes use a plb and bleat on the moutain radio when nothing was wrong with them.
Helicopter operators make their living around the weather. They know it better than anyone in their patch.
9 times out of 10, if they say it is going to be fucked it will be.
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There was snow on the ground up there (and I'd say it was pretty wet as well) before they went in, and an accurate forecast predicting heavy rain (weather warnings) and snow expected for that area. Whoever organised the trip needs a f'n good boot up their arse. I hope they make significant donations to any volunteer groups involved in helping them out. Just another excuse for that road to be locked up as already mentioned.
I am not generally in favour of making people pay for rescue services, but in a case where it is clear cut stupidity, which this is sounding like, then I say give them a bill. A big bill.
To me it makes perfect sense that any user requesting rescue services pays according to their level of need/stupidity.
They've been picked up by the Snow Cats
Wonder if they were the ones parked in a padock near shingle creek
So not a penguin beak then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pengy
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Crazy considering the conditions and forecasts from before they left.
13 4WDs bloody hell... That track will be in worse condition than a drunks boxers after a dodgy curry spiked with laxatives. Chimps in men costumes...
It's people like this that really lend support to the argument that for a year or two we should just take the warning stickers off everything and let nature take it's course.
I expect that they will be mate, only ones I know of in these parts. The farmer is a good bloke too, had a couple of yarns with him in the pastQuote:
Originally Posted by 223nut
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I Iike the new budgies.
Pioneer park this arvo, ferrying muptards off the hill.
And survivor Richard Cranium said he and another survivor Wayne Kerr had huddled together to keep warm because the party leader Mr R Sole would not let them attempt to walk out.
About the only smart move to come from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Say it fast Wayne Kerr & R sole they would have to be the party leaders lol :yarr:
Ha ha ha ha there is a hidden meaning in the other name I used as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boaraxa
Ok, I had it wrong.
The chopper wasn't ferrying them down. My bad.
That'll learn me eh. Choppers have been going all day tho, westpac rescue then the air force one.
Sorry guys
And in Landrover FFS!
It wouldn't be DICK - EADQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Go to the top of the class and collect a gold medal.Quote:
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Can I stake my claim here also?Quote:
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What do you think it would be like at our old family digs?
Been seriously thinking of doing a summer quad ride across the range from Roxy
There is a memorial at Gorge Creek remembering all the miners lost on the range in the great snow of 1863
Dunno if you would get thru mate, I went up and over a couple of years ago with a mate on two wheel bikes and the holes were pretty bad then (never again we said). They will be even worse now I'd wager. I drive to the top and walk these days.
I know the memorial, very sad that those men perished.
My Great Great Grandfather crossed the range a few times in the 1870s, 80s and early 90s.
They carried his brothers body back to Teviot for burial
The miners would clear out of the hills before winter settled in and back as the thaw started
Nah you'd be sweet on a quad, especially thru summer months. I've done it on mx bike 10-12 times and a Yamaha rhino a couple of times.
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I last did that track three summers ago. It was a definite "3 truck" track. We each of us required a pull at some point.
My point is this; we did the journey for the location and the scenery. The road was an incidental challenge that added to the experience
I feel now that some folks have little understanding of the geography, it's history or scenic grandeur, BUT want to do the trip because the (several now) 4WD books list it as pretty well the toughest track to complete.
As a farmer mate said last night to me, he wouldn't attempt that track now even on a tractor, in summer.
The "right" to attempt to drive that track has overtaken the responsibilities of those who do use it and similar tracks like it.
Unless drivers focus on their responsibilities, they will condemn us all lose any rights of access to that and similar roads......
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That puts it in perspective . Hope they got good antifreeze
Yep and good batterys, or they need new ones after the go flat and freeze,
They need a bulldozer, to open up the snow driflts, and a week of fine weather to get them out, that's if the track is going to be in any kinda condition to drive on,
Those new helicopters look pretty sweet, pity they need a flat surface like an airport to land. Not as versatile as the old iriqouis.
And they just don't have that distinctive sound either.Quote:
Originally Posted by stug
Of topic but if you ever want to read a very good book on the capabilities of the Iriqouis and their pilots in the Vietnam war get a hold of a copy of Chickenhawk by Robert Mason (conscripted pilot).Quote:
Originally Posted by stug
Things like taking off totally overloaded, lifting out of clearings with the rotors smacking small tree branches, flying in close formation at night lights out using the instrument lights of next chopper slightly ahead of you for guidance/clearance. A real good read.
I liked Chickenhawk and if you liked it then I recommend Firebirds by Chuck Carlock. "Gunship - Spectre of War" by Harry Zeybel is also a very good / highly entertaining account of the early C130 spectre gunships in Vietnam.Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmer
i enjoyed chickenhawk too ,but the last chapter was a bit jarring with his vivd descritions of his personal aftermath of his vietnam experiences.
Agree about the old green junglebunny "woka 09".typically in NZthey did a lot of things one suspects the designers never thought of.
had a cousin who did a stint as a crewman back in the 70s-they did a few "coast' trips in support of TFjungle training and he reckoned with a couple of SLR's on board a payload of deer would cover costs nicely.It was a also rumoured,that they periodically carted coal from greymouth to wigram!very adaptable types those airforce blokes.
ChickenHawk was a great book.
