Thread: Advice needed - Free Wheel Hubs

I need some new free wheel hubs for my 94 78series Landcruiser. Sick and tired of the Toyota ones. Need to be simple, strong, and easy to fit for a backyard mechanic with a short fuse. What do people recommend?

@ROKTOY would likely know of something I reckon.


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I use AVM on all three of my patrols. Have never played up, unlike the auto FWH that came standard on them.

BUT their one weak point is their tiny long T4 bolts that hold the ally cover on, can be prone to having the ally cover beaten up by rocks and makes it very hard to unscrew them again. Generally not an issue, but if you work your wagon hard in rock gardens they may not be for you

Are they Aisin hubs?

Originally Posted by MSL

@ROKTOY would likely know of something I reckon.

Three options.
1. The strongest option is to modify the factory electric hubs so they can be engaged manually.
2. The most common option is to swap the outer hub for one off a solid axle Hilux (65, 106 series), swap over the KZJ rotor and run a factory AISIN free wheeling hub.
3. Worst option, Remove the factory electric hub, then fit a spacer to enable you to run a factory Hilux AISIN hub. worst option because the spacer always works loose and you loose or damage the free wheeling hub.

Use AISIN Hubs, not copies. AVM etc may be ok but use AISIN.

Originally Posted by ROKTOY

Three options.
1. The strongest option is to modify the factory electric hubs so they can be engaged manually.
2. The most common option is to swap the outer hub for one off a solid axle Hilux (65, 106 series), swap over the KZJ rotor and run a factory AISIN free wheeling hub.
3. Worst option, Remove the factory electric hub, then fit a spacer to enable you to run a factory Hilux AISIN hub. worst option because the spacer always works loose and you loose or damage the free wheeling hub.

Use AISIN Hubs, not copies. AVM etc may be ok but use AISIN.

The present hubs are the factory ones that were modified to manual. Have worked for a few years, but the tiny stainless socket head screw to activate them aint up to the rest of the hub. And the cogged activating ring etc has worn out, big groove down the middle and iots slips as its being turned to "4WD". And theyre the biggest pita to get lined up to fit back together, so was hoping for something a little easier to work with.

The present axle is a solid axle, is it necessary to change to the Hilux solid axle?

Originally Posted by Husky1600#2

The present axle is a solid axle, is it necessary to change to the Hilux solid axle?

Not swapping the axle, just the wheel hub.
This link should see you right as to "How to" and why.
https://www.offroadexpress.kiwi/Foru...hp?f=30&t=4900

Originally Posted by ROKTOY

Not swapping the axle, just the wheel hub.
This link should see you right as to "How to" and why.
https://www.offroadexpress.kiwi/Foru...hp?f=30&t=4900

Thanks for that, excellent description. Might have to source a couple of Hilux hubs.

Originally Posted by ROKTOY

Not swapping the axle, just the wheel hub.
This link should see you right as to "How to" and why.
https://www.offroadexpress.kiwi/Foru...hp?f=30&t=4900

Am trying to get hold of Oldblue, but his email doesnt seem to be working, any idea if he has an updated email address?

@Husky1600#2
Apologies to all for this thread hijack but just trying this route to ask Husky1600 if he received PM's from me ?
Sent several but no response.
Of course he may think I'm a complete idiot unworthy of his time, but I don't mind if that's the case

Originally Posted by 30.06king

@Husky1600#2
Apologies to all for this thread hijack but just trying this route to ask Husky1600 if he received PM's from me ?
Sent several but no response.
Of course he may think I'm a complete idiot unworthy of his time, but I don't mind if that's the case

Yup received them and then sent a rather long reply. Will check my message box.

have just checked my "sent" box and neither of them have gone, will try again.

The other option is avm direct replacement manual hubs...I have some for sale second hand.
Otherwise everything you might need or want is here.

https://www.4wdbits.co.nz/ProductsLi...CategoryID=171

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

The other option is avm direct replacement manual hubs...I have some for sale second hand.
Otherwise everything you might need or want is here.

https://www.4wdbits.co.nz/ProductsLi...CategoryID=171

Do the AVM ones use a spacer behind the FWH?

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Not on the Patrol version they don't. Just 6 cap screws hold the steel body onto the hub, and 6 long tiny T4 bolts hold the alloy head that houses the worm in/out mechanism.

I was thinking the last lot I replaced were a direct bolt on with their own spacer and everything required including gaskets. But didn't want to post that as it was a while ago and my memory being what it is these days haha. The job on the linked forum seems way more complicated that the steel body manual hubs I fitted, they did about 45,000 k's farm and general off road site access work with no issues including a few whoopses where the hubs made contact with stuff and got dinged but didn't fail. Last I heard were still doing the business for the new owner...

Was a lot like this from what I can see: https://www.4wdbits.co.nz/ProductDet...productID=8495

But I don't know if they are the right ones to replace the electrical jobs as a bolt on like I did. I recall they were a specially ordered set but thats about it now. The cables got left in place and snipped further up just a two-day repair job after the electrically activated one's decided to not be one day. Well kinda more like they decided to get moody and sometimes would work, other times in and out every few minutes you get the idea.