Thread: barn find

I am still running drums you have to fiddle a bit to get them pulling up straight.
Having said that you are concentrating if you have to brake in a hurry.
Take a bit of drying out when they have had a dip.
Also pays to check you have matched wheel cylinders you will be surprised what may be fitted.

How often do they need work @erniec? It will never be a daily driver so it will sit a bit. how do the drums cope with that? I've had drum braked cars before that could lock up all fours at 100km. I don't doubt they can be effective, just curious about the maintenance that goes into them

The front drums are the tool of satan as when they are wet they don't break properly and can often pull to one side. When they wear in a bit they pull to one side. Basically you spend your life fiddling with the adjustments of them. The hilux ones were bolt on I think but it was many years ago I got them fitted. Rear disks would be good but they don't cause the same pull to one side that front drums do and whatever break you fit has to deal with the handbreak somehow.

There are also two rear axel configurations, ful floating and semi floating rear axel. Basically one has a hub assembly on it like the front wheels and the other doesn't. What rear break kit you use will be influanced by what axel type you have.

In terms of the end of production of the 40 series cruisers. We are talking about a vehicle that was designed in 1960 with a engine dating back to the 1940s. It's amazing that it lasted as long as it did given modern emissions and saftey standards. No crumple zones, a dash full of sharp pointy objects etc etc...

Had this one 15 years driven regular for the last year as I use it to drive to work.
Before that it sat a bit.
Haven't had to fiddle with them to much,mind you it has had new wheel cylinders all round,master cylinder done,new brake linings.
Did that probably 10 years ago.It helps that I stick it in garage at night.
But they are nothing like a late model Ranger,Navara etc.
Having said that brilliant in town or tight stuff beat the flash utes hands down.
They are tiny in comparison,swb good turning circle.
Drive on to the middle Mangahao dam carpark turn round area and see how you get on.
The late model trucks are just that trucks park one next to an old hilux or similar and see how small the old ones are.
I had a mate ticketed for the arse end of his over the next parking space.

If you want to convert the drums to disk on older cruisers you need to replace the knuckles & steering arms as well.
The best bet is to get all the parts from a later model that came with disks as standard.
60 series was the way to do it a few years ago but there's probably more 70 series parts around now that should do.
If it was me, the first thing I would do is dump the front drums in favour of disks.

Sorry @Pointer. No parts down there worth while. The old spare cab is pretty rusty now
I had to wrap some bales whole I was there


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Originally Posted by mickey

If you want to convert the drums to disk on older cruisers you need to replace the knuckles & steering arms as well.
The best bet is to get all the parts from a later model that came with disks as standard.
60 series was the way to do it a few years ago but there's probably more 70 series parts around now that should do.
If it was me, the first thing I would do is dump the front drums in favour of disks.

I didn't have to swap knuckles\steering arms when I got mine converted to front disks. This may not be true for the older model 40s but the ones made in the 80s shoud swap streight over.

Cheers anyway puku, much appreciated

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

I didn't have to swap knuckles\steering arms when I got mine converted to front disks. This may not be true for the older model 40s but the ones made in the 80s shoud swap streight over.

You may be right about the later models, but the older ones will not have the holes drilled to mount the disk or the brake calliper.
If you get all the parts from a later model they will all bolt up with no welding or fabricating required.

@Pointer this photo came up on my mrs FB , the poor old truck used to frequent my street until this incident right out side our house . Earthquake completely flooded the street at least half a meter in centre of camber . Sink hole was totally hidden , luckly no one drowned

Shit!

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Originally Posted by Munsey

@Pointer this photo came up on my mrs FB , the poor old truck used to frequent my street until this incident right out side our house . Earthquake completely flooded the street at least half a meter in centre of camber . Sink hole was totally hidden , luckly no one drowned Attachment 44499

That doesn't seem like much of a problem. Put it in low first and give it a bit of the skinny pedal and it will climb right out!

Was thinking the same, the cruiser would be fine. Dramatic photo though