Flod damaged cars?

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Originally Posted by cambo

They are flagged at point of entry as damaged.
We've seen a lot come thru work.
Majority show as "statutory write off" by the aussies.
Some are very minor, but they're still documented as having been written off/damaged

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Interesting. Although 9ne of my previous employers did a little more dodgy than that. He got one of the imported flood damaged cars and just swapped the plates from his vehicle to to the new one and just did it that way.
The import never went through any official process other than a warrant.
Hard case as it was a 2wd and his buggered one was a 4wd but wasnt picked up while I was there and at least for some time afterwards. Surprised it lasted anyway as he has penis fingers when it comes to cars and motorbikes
Nuff said

Ramblings.....water and electricity and batteries?

I have been a landlord for years...?
Electric stoves....When a tenant left a property it was not uncommon for the stove to be left in a greasy condition. Including the electrics at the back of the stove. I sometimes took the disconnected stove outside and took the back cover off. Then water blasted the electrics and then spray on a foam oven cleaner / then brush down with petrol and repeat a few times. Basically in the end no fat build up. Let every thing thoroughly dried out with no water residue then every thing works fine electrically wise.

As we all know the Auckland floods and submerged cars .

To the automobile minded on here.
Take for example a parked up Mitsubishi Outlander PHEW with the engine switched off. If that model of car was completely submerged over its roof in fresh water for 24 /48 hours and then worked upon by an expert including a thorough dried out also including the petrol and all oil changed should the car 100% work? Perhaps its not as simple as that electronic wise ?

On the web one reads of stories of electronic devices going in the drink and being salvaged ....dried out then working?

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If even the tiniest amount of water gets into those battery packs its game over. Dried out or not. The packs are not designed to be pulled apart. I think it was a PHEV that attempted a small river Xing up the Motu some months ago. Rotally tooted:oh noes:

Those one's aren't - the Leaf and Prius ones are comprised of linked modules and they can be sorted out and dead modules swapped out. It's not just the batteries, its the water soaking into the loom past plug seals and into sensors and things like airbag charges. ECU corrosion is a pain in the arse, electric steering and window regulator motors all good things that die young after a swim.

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Originally Posted by video hunter

Ramblings.....water and electricity and batteries?

I have been a landlord for years...?
Electric stoves....When a tenant left a property it was not uncommon for the stove to be left in a greasy condition. Including the electrics at the back of the stove. I sometimes took the disconnected stove outside and took the back cover off. Then water blasted the electrics and then spray on a foam oven cleaner / then brush down with petrol and repeat a few times. Basically in the end no fat build up. Let every thing thoroughly dried out with no water residue then every thing works fine electrically wise.

As we all know the Auckland floods and submerged cars .

To the automobile minded on here.
Take for example a parked up Mitsubishi Outlander PHEW with the engine switched off. If that model of car was completely submerged over its roof in fresh water for 24 /48 hours and then worked upon by an expert including a thorough dried out also including the petrol and all oil changed should the car 100% work? Perhaps its not as simple as that electronic wise ?

On the web one reads of stories of electronic devices going in the drink and being salvaged ....dried out then working?

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What is it with tenants and cooking in bloody lard? I used to hate that, was living in a house and replaced the kitchen - no oven etc. Ended up moving to a better location for work, couldn't seel the place and ended up renting. 6 months of one tenant, new stove, extractor/range hood etc etc what a freaking mess. There was so much fat in there it warped the element housing at the bottom of the stove and it was rooted.

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Originally Posted by No.3

What is it with tenants and cooking in bloody lard? I used to hate that, was living in a house and replaced the kitchen - no oven etc. Ended up moving to a better location for work, couldn't seel the place and ended up renting. 6 months of one tenant, new stove, extractor/range hood etc etc what a freaking mess. There was so much fat in there it warped the element housing at the bottom of the stove and it was rooted.

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They must have been Poms.....we do like a bit of 'drippin'......:sick:

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Originally Posted by video hunter

To the automobile minded on here.
Take for example a parked up Mitsubishi Outlander PHEW with the engine switched off. If that model of car was completely submerged over its roof in fresh water for 24 /48 hours and then worked upon by an expert including a thorough dried out also including the petrol and all oil changed should the car 100% work? Perhaps its not as simple as that electronic wise ?



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your right its not as simple as that.............theres a big difference between an oven and an electric car with fuck knows how many computers on board.....
i dont think the floodwaters were entirely freshwater they never are there will have been contaminants in the mix
and then theres the insurance companies whose outlook is always in dollars and cents and future risk exposure....... they simply dont know enough about electric and hybrid cars to make it worth the risk ....will it shit itself in 12 months and come back ? and remembering that if the cost of repair gets to 75% the value then its goneburgers
aside from the power train there is all the interior that would need replacing regardless and then theres parts supply .......many of the parts could be 3-6 months x japan we dont carry a good stock of parts for any vehicle in NZ .......would you as an isurance claimant (if you were one ) want to wait for your car that long or would you rather have the cash and move on straight away?

the mixing of sea water and electronic stuff has / does provide me with a job for nearly 35 years.
If it gets wet its f%^Ked if you want/need/expect any type of reliability out of it or rely on it.

Not just sea water, the salt atmosphere effect is good for up to 200 feet above sea level...

So what is the future of the second hand market for hybrid and electric cars in New Zealand going to be now ?
No change, life still goes on....Just however it will be buyer beware unless the powers to be do something about flood damaged vehicles?
Obviously a world wide "flood problem" to car manufacturers?

Insurance premiums and payouts.
Any one had problems there.....Like read the small print....Is water damage to a car's propulsion battery 100% cover like intentionally fording a normal concrete fiord creek in normal flow as there is in the rural areas of New Zealand?

so how nd where will all these flood water emerged cars be disposed of is more to the point?????
if wreckers get hold of them the parts will fly far n wide ,the issues will spread. panel beaters could well salvage MOST OF the panelwork and you could argue wreckers could do so too....but where does the line get drawn??? and how does it get enforced????
if not able to be parted out,and actually even if it is,where does all the rest of car go???? landfill...... seeing images of all the household stuff chucked out....all our cloths and bedding are gone,we need new sheets...ummmmm so when your kids shat the bed,did you go and buy new sheets or did you wash them ?????
when kids came home off sports field on wet weekend did the uniforms all get binned or washed ready for next weekend????
flood waters may well be carrying all manner of goodies n floaties..but its clothing and bedsheets FFS...it will come out in the wash.

i guess they all smell of sewerage, a dead giveaway

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

so how nd where will all these flood water emerged cars be disposed of is more to the point?????
if wreckers get hold of them the parts will fly far n wide ,the issues will spread. panel beaters could well salvage MOST OF the panelwork and you could argue wreckers could do so too....but where does the line get drawn??? and how does it get enforced????
if not able to be parted out,and actually even if it is,where does all the rest of car go???? landfill...... seeing images of all the household stuff chucked out....all our cloths and bedding are gone,we need new sheets...ummmmm so when your kids shat the bed,did you go and buy new sheets or did you wash them ?????
when kids came home off sports field on wet weekend did the uniforms all get binned or washed ready for next weekend????
flood waters may well be carrying all manner of goodies n floaties..but its clothing and bedsheets FFS...it will come out in the wash.

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About the only stuff that won't get recycled (if it's not fit for sale) is the plastics and seats

there were huge piles of stuff out on kerbside that was all going into landfill...unless you know something I dont know and its going to all be sifted through.

I was just talking about cars....