Thread: Fuel economy. Listed vs reality

Yeah, but the Patrol is sooo much cheaper to own in the long term. Depreciation for one thing, is almost non existant. Rebuild an injector pump and injectors (needed maybe once in its lifetime will set you back a cuople of grand. A diesel techician wouldn't even get out of bed for your Ford ranger/hilux/Isuzu IP for 2K! Maintenance costs are far lower, with the plethora of reasonable quality aftermarket bits. My Landy has half a shed worth of spare parts stashed away. The Patrol has a couple of spare oil filters and some suspension bushes. Period
But horses for courses. Some people love the comfort of a new wagon. Fuel economy is small beers in the long term scheme of things, when some are looking at dropping 15 - 20 K in depreciation in the first few years of ownership.

My 2018 Triton advertised 7.4 l/100 when I got it, best I have even gotten was around 8 usually closer to 9.... Saleman reckoned the 7.4 was easy to get. I have zeroed the trip meter whilst doing 100 a with a slight tail wind and kept crusing at 100 and it still showed over 8l/100. Towing a decent trailer will take it up to 15l/100

I will admit that this is all off the computer and not actually measured at the pump as I'm too lazy

Id be surprised if any ute owner has lost 15-20k in depreciation since buying a ute from 2015-2020. The market at the moment is crazy.

My 3.2 Ranger was running at 9.8 L/100 on AT's and when I put a bull/winch bar on recently it shot up to 10.5.

Originally Posted by Tahr

My 3.2 Ranger was running at 9.8 L/100 on AT's and when I put a bull/winch bar on recently it shot up to 10.5.

Roo bar for SouthIsland roo hunts.Did you get a winch fitted in at the sametime ?

Originally Posted by Trout

Roo bar for SouthIsland roo hunts.Did you get a winch fitted in at the sametime ?

No. Doubt I will. Snorkel and suspension upgrade next - so long as I can start to earn an income again.

Even old y61 2019-2000 patrols 4.2dti with 500000 -60000ks that only have a few owners.Getting sold between $12000 to $20000.One a few months ago,2nd owner had it 20yrs,645000ks,looked like his dog live in it as it was torn to bits on the inside.Sold for $16400.Good coin, but motor and running gear had been looked after and still going strong.

Good one,i see rangers going thru our town sometimes,been all kitted out, covered in mud and dirt.Hunters in them,deer,pigs or tahr thrown over the back.Using the truck for what its made for.

Absolutely Trout. I love seeing blood tripping out the tailgate!

Just to stay on topic - this was my DMax before the Ranger. The DMax ran at about 9.2 L/100

Just so long as the gravy is running out the tail gate.Tahr you no doubt know that if the liner gets a split, the acidic blood will rot out the wellside lickety split. Back to topic.
As a self employed tradie I do the tax minimization dance with IRD by turning over my diesels within every 3 years, so have got the first hand experience of comparing listed consumption figures with actual performance cause I,m anal like that.4x 70 series V8 cruisers, 1 Henry Ford Ranger & 1 mini-me Mazda BT-50.All purchased off the show room floor as rolling chassis requiring fitting out with aftermarket decks, roof racks, bullbars with racks & suspension upgrade if reqd.Not one of those new vehicle or once run in with 30 odd clicks on then come close to factory fiqures.Marketing spin.Possibily achievable as a rolling chassis in nanna mode?

My dmax sat at 10.6I/100 km I drive on a lot of hilly windy roads & farm tracks that was a manual just sold it at 4 years old (because it was a lemon & they wouldn't do any more warranty work on it & I can't afford to be with out a ute) in that 4 years I lost 10k depreciation & it probably cost 15-20 in warranty repairs in that time. Iv gone to a new Hilux iv done 4 thousand km init & it siting on 10l /100km doing the same work as the dmax but iv gone auto this time they both been set up the same 4*4 dcab with canopy & nudge bar

Nothing like a mobile meat safe.A few yrs ago i towered a trail from Beaumont,southland to chch in one trip.Trailor had nine gutted deer in it,patrol had 4 hunters and gear.I keep the foot down abit,Sunday night,Monday morning back to chch.Patrol avaraged 18ks/100ks.I thort it did well considering all the weight and my heavey foot.Keeped truck out of over drive till the canterbury plans.

Just looked at my hilux 14 manual 4x4 11.4l/100km never been reset

97 Prado 1-KZ 3.0 Turbo 360k manual full-time 4WD Bridgestone ATs @ 36
Around town 11.5ish
On a trip 9.7 or so
Best ever 9.3
Didn't notice much difference changing between road tyres and ATs, maybe 0.5l per 100kms

Bought for $20K in 2002 at 120km
Never had a problem, change the fluids and filters, spend another $1K say every 2-3 years, steering bushes, diff kit, aircon
Cheap motoring

Also had the 3.4 V6 auto version for a bit - now that sucks gas 14 litres on a trip

Fuel economy has definitely improved somewhat with newer models enabled by whizz-bang wizardry I presume.
But at what cost to reliability and maintenance requirements?

As the old french engineer (LAME) who taught me liked to say "there's no substitute for cubic inches" :-)

Depends on what the actual drive train is!

If it has a centre diff all is fine in the world.