Thread: Full Electric LDV ute

Originally Posted by vulcannz

Really really important watch on EV true CO2 costs (it will blow your mind):



and another one on the true cost and impact of renewable energy:



It really makes you wonder about the green camp.

I see the govt supplied 3 electric vehicles (utes?) for Doc to use in the Chathams where all the electricity is diesel generated!!!!!!

Originally Posted by timattalon

I see the govt supplied 3 electric vehicles (utes?) for Doc to use in the Chathams where all the electricity is diesel generated!!!!!!

Didn't they do that in Stewart Is too

Where are all these charging stations and if it takes ages to charge then everyone will be sitting around with their fingers up their bums.

A range of 300-400km's then another long charge just isn't practical at all.

Originally Posted by Happy Jack

Didn't they do that in Stewart Is too

Less servicing requirements though? But a bit of a moot point with both islands as fuel any is in short supply...

Originally Posted by No.3

Less servicing requirements though? But a bit of a moot point with both islands as fuel any is in short supply...

Won't the generators need servicing?

Originally Posted by vulcannz

Won't the generators need servicing?

Already do as used for powering everything else. Any reduction in servicing and fuel useage is a bonus there, 20% less fuel used is 20% less that has to be shipped in. If I was in one of the islands, I'd be pushing batteries installed in each place and wind generators on each roof (the little vertical almost silent jobbies). That gets largely around the visual and noise complaint angles that everyone has been bitching about.

rooftop wind turbines are a waste of time. Reliably produce 5 8ths of fuck all. To produce ANY useable power your turbine needs to be way the hell up in clean airflow: in a suburb that's a minimum of 12 m, so practically un-doable, or godamn ugly at the least. And to produce sufficient power to recharge an EV you need a decent sized wind turbine. A 1kw one wont cut the mustard. They only produce a kw in a hurricane.

Back in 2006 when I studied off grid shit my tutor stepped us through the math of every home in NZ (say 1.5 million homes) having a rooftop turbine, and then proceeded to show us just how many big boy turbines you needed to replace them with. 29 was the number. 29x3mw turbines.

Originally Posted by XR500

rooftop wind turbines are a waste of time. Reliably produce 5 8ths of fuck all. To produce ANY useable power your turbine needs to be way the hell up in clean airflow: in a suburb that's a minimum of 12 m, so practically un-doable, or godamn ugly at the least. And to produce sufficient power to recharge an EV you need a decent sized wind turbine. A 1kw one wont cut the mustard. They only produce a kw in a hurricane.

Back in 2006 when I studied off grid shit my tutor stepped us through the math of every home in NZ (say 1.5 million homes) having a rooftop turbine, and then proceeded to show us just how many big boy turbines you needed to replace them with. 29 was the number. 29x3mw turbines.

Then add into the equation that the number of turbines required will actually make enough wind resistance to impact weather patterns....Think along the lines of covering the country in windbreaks made of turbines with each one providing disruption to the flow of air....

https://www.nanoflowcell.com/info-ce...ound-the-world


This stuff looks exciting

Originally Posted by tamamutu

https://www.nanoflowcell.com/info-ce...ound-the-world


This stuff looks exciting

Indeed.

I have said many many times that while I like EVs, they ware not the solution to our woes. Their great advantage is their efficiency in converting the stored energy into motion, but their biggest issue is fuel capacity. I also stated to more people than I care to remember that we have not yet found the solution to replacing ICE but EV were not it. This concept is a perfect example of what I mean. This is a potential solution that we had not thought of. It is another step towards the future solutions to our issues. And there will be many different solutions as no one solution will work for everyone.

I am trying to find an article I saw a few years back where a guy had worked out how to get Hydrogen and oxygen from water, mix it with carbon from the atmosphere and make hydrocarbon fuel that was carbon negative (More carbon was pulled from the air than was released back into it during consumption) . The really interesting part of his concept was that
-it worked in normal ICE vehicles with minor tuning so you did not have to replace every motor in the worlds fleet.
-It used existing fuel distribution logistics (Tankers and fuel stations, bowsers etc)
-It could be made anywhere that there was a supply of water, and electricity to make it. Thus removing the need for large ships carrying it around the world- eliminates chance of oil spill disasters etc and allows those ships to be converted into container shipping.

He had proof of concept but was unable to scale up to large volume production with the technology he had developed at that stage. I do not know what happened to it. Whether it succeeded (doubtful) or failed. But again it is an example of the fact that the solution has simply not yet been found. It is there, we just need to work it out....

Originally Posted by vulcannz

Won't the generators need servicing?

The Upper Waitaki hydro power generators get serviced every summer,all 15 of them.Big job and a lot of planning is needed.Even at a carpenter,iv help the sparkies and fitters with work on them.Even helped the painter with stripping down the wicket gates that govern the flow of water thru the turbines ready for painting.Not a nice place to be if there was a earth quake.Years befor that i worked for 8yrs building the same power houses,intakes and penstock pedestals up on the slopes from the intakes to power houses.Government today couldnt afford the same hydro scheme or get the skilled work force to build them.

Originally Posted by Trout

The Upper Waitaki hydro power generators get serviced every summer,all 15 of them.Big job and a lot of planning is needed.Even at a carpenter,iv help the sparkies and fitters with work on them.Even helped the painter with stripping down the wicket gates that govern the flow of water thru the turbines ready for painting.Not a nice place to be if there was a earth quake.Years befor that i worked for 8yrs building the same power houses,intakes and penstock pedestals up on the slopes from the intakes to power houses.Government today couldnt afford the same hydro scheme or get the skilled work force to build them.

Government today doesnt want to build stuff. They want you to rely on them for everything and be grateful you get anything.....

Wouldnt touch it personally. its an EV strapped to a ICE body with a shit-ton of early adoptors tax but the comments about the range are interesting and once i think about it, not surprising at all. Going faster needs a lot more power due to drag and utes are as aerodynamic as the auckland museum.

Hmm interesting, I wounder how the rural power grid would cope with these. Water crossings or flood water here in Auckland? Towing a boat? Still lots of questions...

How is yours going now @Hunter595