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im doing a rebuild of an old hilux iv got and im thinking of doing a re power for a v8, the plan is to use it for club comps/ winch challenged and other hard off roading. does anyone know from experience what gearboxes are best to use? i want to do it once and do it right. i will also be upgrading the rest of the drivetrain to handle the extra power so i dont want any weaknesses.
Toyota dyna gearbox and marks 4wd adapters.
What engine are you using?
Would assume 1uz?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
A c6 with full manuall valve body, that is assuming your doing it properly with a 460 cube ford :thumbsup:
1UZ, 2UZ or 3UZ?
R151 might work for a bit.
Which are expensive and hard to find unfortunatly.
Not hard to find or expensive. KNZ165 HiluxQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
I converted my transfer case from push button 4WD to lever (chain transfer case) If you want to run the very strong gear transfer case, adapters are available from the states.
The Prado also uses the R151 and is full time 4WD but the transfer case is on the other side, so a front diff swap is required.
Grippy tires, plenty of grunt, extra weight & old parts combined with generous throttle angle applications will inevitably end in various amounts of bad language after varying amounts of fun :thumbsup:
Always great to hear the rumble of a V8 going past, then turning to see a tall Hilux going past :)
was going to be a 1uz as theres alot of adapters and bits for them. so which ones are the non chain drive toyota boxes? i dont mind paying a bit of coin for something decent if theres better combos
i have got a fucked r151 out of a surf in the shed but itl need a new 3/4 selector fork and bearings
Gear driven transfer case out of a LN106 Hilux.
actually the transfer off the r151 is still mint, but are they strong enough?
Sorry I am thinking of the H151, tho the R151 must be getting hard to find a good one these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by kokako
iv got a w56 and a g52 box, but i hear the main boxes will shit itself pretty quickly, are there adapters for other boxes?Quote:
Originally Posted by kokako
DON'T put a manual in it. Put an auto box in it and you can mod it to allow manual control of the gears. It will save you endless strife in the long run and you can stick to Toyota part and popular adapter systems.
The toyo V8 is a popular choice but it doesn't leave much room under the bonnet for extra batteries etc.
Are you planning on a PTO as well for winch or? If you are keen on the winch challenges have a think about weight distribution as well - front/rear, most people worry about overall weight but not where is.
i have thought about an auto for in water etc what can i use one from? was thinking maybe a hydraulic winch iv been told theyre way faster. as for batteries etc i can always make a holder somewhere else for them. im after complete reliability if there is such a thingQuote:
Originally Posted by Barefoot
Nothing will fuck an auto quicker than getting water in it, if you go that way make sure it is well sealed and vented.
ok ill scrap the auto idea then. the internet is a bastard of a place, one says do this, the other says do that. so far iv seen r series is best to use....
Autos are good and softer on the driveline/no clutch to get wet easyer to roll on the power.
Just don't let water get in them, do input and output bearings and seals minimum before installation and vent to the driest point.
which auto box should i look at ones out of a surf or is there a adapter to the one that comes with the 1uz? i like the idea of easier on the drive line and no need to button off when changing gearQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
just found a good build someone has done using the original 1uz auto box adapted to a surf auto transfer case. that looks like the go for now
They are a number of RWD Toyotas that used the V8 in them to choose from.Quote:
Originally Posted by silentscope
Hydraulic winch can be very quick but also more expensive than a PTO system. You also need to allow for a tank for extra fluid. I haven't raced for over 6yrs so I'm out of touch with what is flavour of the month.
Winch speed isn't the most important thing, rather how it's used, and the better you drive the less you need to use it.
Batteries in a hilux best located where the spare wheel sits behind the rear axle. Mid mounted winch with helps with weight distribution. I the first wagon I built we had close to 50/50 weight front/rear, great for traction.
what come out with a PTO system? if you dont mind im gonna be annoying and ask you lots of questionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Barefoot
Well you would need a PTO to run a pump for a hydraulic winch, otherwise a standard Toyota PTO landcruiser winch would work assuming you fit a cruiser gearbox. You can get a bit more control out of the hydraulic once you are used to it. I've seen electric motors converted to hydraulic as well as the standard ones. Downside to both systems is they don't work if the engine isn't going so you need a backup electric winch. The Aussies were using 24V through a 12v winch but the motors overheat. All depends how competitive you want to be, I only did it for fun, spent more time setting tracks than anything else :D
I ran mine off the crank. In line. Air ram to engage and disengage tho really had tm turn it off to let it go in nice not so much of a issue. Mid mounted winch, 2 speed also on air rams went from 4t pull at 1.2m/s flick it over had 12t at .5m/s. If you go hydro it is the way to get reliable fast set up but will cost alot. . . . Alot of $$$$ unless you have someone in the know for parts etc. Mine all up was around 3k but got alot of bits for bugger all in my field of work or able to fix what wouldn't have been cost effective to fix in time. I had piston pump and drive unit off a waratah adds weight as well would have been maybe 150kg plus? But was over the back where I needed more.
Go hydro do it right keep it covered up no one can see till you start to winch amd people think your back driving 👍