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Hi all, I'm looking at some security for the old LN Hilux project now that's it's pretty much finished seeing as they're so easily stolen. An alarm seems pointless and the insurance company doesn't care but I've thought about a magnet tracker with an ECD kill switch or maybe a hardwired tracker with a relay. Searching through the internets there's a lot out there.
Anyone have any experience with these and can make a recommendation?
Cheers
I have had the idea for a bulkhead socket with 8 or so pins in it, with a blank plug that fits into it and wire it into a couple of things like the starter motor secondary solenoid, the fuel cut off relay etc etc. Basically interrupting the critical start circuits so without the 'dongle' or blank plug with the right pins connected fitted into the socket the vehicle cannot start and would need to be towed or trailered to go anywhere. Used to pull a fuse or two to do the same job, but it would be easier to pull something like that as a fully manual immobilising setup.
I'm going to be in the market for a GPS tracker shortly as my current GPS logbook is about to be obsoleted meaning it will cease being supported and will no longer operate. Unsure as which way to go as well as everything I have seen so far is looking a lot more expensive to run annually with subscriptions and comms etc.
I just run GPS tags
Not sure about their effectiveness verses flash Harry trackers. But they are a level of technology I can cope with.
Got a recommendation? Looks to be plenty.....Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
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I'm using the Samsung ones. PB Tech run specials on four packs occasionally.Quote:
Originally Posted by kukuwai
Probably best get advice from someone like @gonetropo as to whether they are any good.
A plug would be more inconspicuous and than a switch, not a bad idea. At the moment I pull the ECD relay when out for a hunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by No.3
I've come across this brand that you can buy locally, PB Tech etc, or save some cash on Aliexpress: https://www.jimilab.com/news/how-to-...must-have.html
Geofencing and a remote shutoff sound like good ideas as well as a hard cutoff plug or switch. Monthly cost seems very low if you have an account you can share data from like 2 degrees. A prepaid sim and share data from you main account should be next to nothing if you don't use the text/call functions. Subs to their app is for 10 years included.
Looks like new models coming have GPS jamming detection where they can automatically cut fuel or start circuits.
Apparently a samsung phone will warn a user (thief) if it's been followed by an unknown smart tag.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
I isolate the Glow plug and Start relays, it’s a bit simple but it wouldn’t be something that someone could discover in 5 minutes. I also run apple air tags and tile tags.
Two years ago I got sick of looking for my keys and wallet in weird places, and decided to invest, best thing I ever bought and they paid for themselves in saved time within a fortnight.
I just had to replace the AirTag battery about a month ago, almost a two year turnaround. The tiles are still going strong but when they do die there is no replacing the battery, it’s just buy new.
AirTag needs to be near wifi or an iPhone to ping, tile needs to be near a phone that has the app to ping.
AirTag will warn someone if it follows them beyond a certain threshold, but two well hidden ones on a Hilux would take ages to find, and the vehicle would have to be stopped too.
On my old ute I ran a wire from an earth to the coil, hide the wires and place the switch somewhere out of the way. Simple & very effective.
Yeah, that was my theory with the dongle idea - sort of like the companies that run individual ID tags for the vehicles that if you don't scan in to tell the car who's driving you don't get to start it. Those things are frightfully expensive, the replacement dongles are wallet breaking and the software licence scares me to be truthfully honest - and the average person doesn't need the functionality to manage 100 or so drivers on the system...
I figure it would not be too hard to make up and run an auxiliary loom through the firewall and connect it to the right places depending if you have a diesel or a petrol vehicle - if you got really cunning you could flog an OBDII port off a wrecked car and use a basic OBDII corded plug off Aliexpress as the dongle to connect the wires to make everything live and the ignition to function. Your average car crook would be smart enough to recognise the OBDII port, but probably not quick enough to work out it's additional to the factory supplied ones...
Your best bet is a good kill system. A young guy up here did up a lancruiser and just put a tracker in it. Sure enough it got stolen, tracked it and it was at a gang pad. Told the cops and they didnt want a bar of it. So he lost his vehicle couldnt get it back and I still see it driving around from time to time...
The MX5 place here in Chch was / is fitting text fuel stop / engine stop switches of some sort. You can text the car and shut it down. Mostly due to the number of these getting stolen here by joyriders....
That's rough. I hope he was insured.Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
This rabbit hole goes deep. I've found switched relays, remote switched relays and wireless remote relays.
https://41twentytwo.com/product/vehi...9ney7NtufbHvh1
https://www.mobilistics.com/nostart-...p-immobilizer/
We run cartrack in our work vehicles, it has helped us recover 2 stolen vehicles so far. They also have an option for remotely turning the car off.
Depends where your going to leave it as well. Trackers or even imobilisers arent much use if it gets stripped where you parked it
In the workshop where it was built, with all the tools and lifting equipment they would ever need... :XD:Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
Part of the problem with the remotely activated stuff is it doesn't (well in my experience of it anyway) work out of cell coverage. This (well for my purposes) really affects the attractiveness of the setup as where I need it is out of cellphone coverage. If it's expensive and I can;t use it where I need it...Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
A foolproof system is one thing, a system that is proof against people that know what they are about is another thing entirely. I can definitely immobilise a vehicle no problem, the concern there for me is turning back up and finding it still smoking. Bastards.
Yeah I think I'll go with both the tracker and hidden switch or plug like suggested. At least hunting out of coverage it will still slow them down.Quote:
Originally Posted by No.3
I've decided to give this a crack: https://teltonika-gps.com/products/trackers/fmc234
8 days on it's own backup battery and three outputs for the (air) horn/alarm/fuel/start etc bit of reading there to figure it out though.
Cheers for everyone's thoughts.
What No.3 said, my Safari has a gps tracker and alarm, fuel solenoid cut off switch, and electrical cut off switch...plus when I was working in and around the city during the day (ChCh - and we all know what that's like for vehicle theft) I would put a steel contraption over the pedals with a solid padlock which prevents the pedals from being used AND I've got another steel thingy which secures the steering box from so that it won't steer. But I always think that if the fukers can't flog it they'll think I can't have it either and chuck a match inside. Safaris and Landcrabs are NOTORIUS for being stolen in Shitshit and have been for years.
android phones and apple have apps that will tell you that you have a unknown device near you usually within 24 hours... Part of anti stalking I think. I knew a guy who had a old sports farm with tracker ,got stolen ,he tracked it to a house and could see it inside the property, police said they were too busy to help..he grabbed it back with the help of some tough friends..Quote:
Originally Posted by Hahn
Used to work with a guy that would just take his steering wheel off
Yep - that's my theory behind setting up a plug dongle arrangement with about 6 different sets of pins in it, interrupting the fuel cut off, starter motor, electrical, ignition, engine management power feed relay and the in-tank fuel lift pump. Plug the dongle in to drive, no dongle no drive - ever. And it's not like Mad Max where you have about 16 switches and if you don't get them flicked right in the right order a spear nails you to the driver's seat...Quote:
Originally Posted by Twodiffs
Here hold my beer
This seems to be a good idea, I would do this along with a hard-wired GPS so you can go pick it up after you have text it.Quote:
Originally Posted by timattalon