Thread: Hilux hybrid.4wd vs dmax ls 4wd

Looking at buying a new truck. This month.contemplatimg the 2 options. Have a petrol navara for sale 2017 if the trade.doesnt work out
.suggestions.

Vechile advice is a bit like scopes we all have a different veiw,
We lost out landcruiser 2 months ago and we were after a replacement, I've always been toyota through and through we have a 18 hilux, test drove the new gr hybrid and was really disappointed, same interior, engine etc come on toyota sharpen up! See the new model coming next year still has the same motor.
So yeah for 80k plus was bitterly disappointed in the hilux and I so wanted one in the shed.
Ended up with a Ford after the wife suggested we test drive one, so far ahead of toyota, sorry didn't test drive the dmax but it's most likely got a bit more fruit than the hilux at a guess.

Yeah i haven't even contemplated ford. Heard some horror stories about their gearboxs. And a friend has been dealing with ford for 2 years since new with his..the latest offered a older model truck and some.cash his way to sort the problem .

DMAX have their issues, I think the latest ones have an issue with the front upper control arms which causes excessive front tyre wear.

But they have the mighty 4JJ3 engine.

Out of those two I’d be choosing the DMAX all day.

I have an Isuzu Mux after selling manual D Max. Same running gear, but with coil rears so softer ride. Son had a new work Hilux. Turning circle hopeless and I kept hitting my head getting in to front passengers seat. He did 40 odd thou Km in it and commented he’d never own one as a pvt vehicle.

If only those choices then the Dmax. But if looking at the Dmax then look at the Mazda as it’s basically the same wagon with a few changed panels and 2 less cup holders. And service fees at the dealer are about half what Isuzu was going to charge me.

Originally Posted by Quackers

Yeah i haven't even contemplated ford. Heard some horror stories about their gearboxs. And a friend has been dealing with ford for 2 years since new with his..the latest offered a older model truck and some.cash his way to sort the problem .

Yeah 100% mate, all brands have there's issues, 5 year warranty makes that not my issue though.
We certainly hadn't considered ford I told the salesman I thought rangers were piles of shit.

Originally Posted by Barefoot

If only those choices then the Dmax. But if looking at the Dmax then look at the Mazda as it’s basically the same wagon with a few changed panels and 2 less cup holders. And service fees at the dealer are about half what Isuzu was going to charge me.

Only prob is Mazda is not bring the BT50 in anymore, the capped servicing is good.
There are kits and replacement parts you can get for the front suspension, but a good wheel aligner can and sorted it out for me once it started wearing unevenly.

And I think Dmax have sorted the issue with the control arms from july 24

Have a look at the running gear and engine bays of these new hybrid vehicles and compare them to the simplicity of the order deisel models. You don't need to be a mechanic to see that they are a mind fuck.
The electrical side is a whole another conversation.

I'd be weary of Rangers. I went from a 2000 Hilux to a 2021 Ranger (new) and have had a number of problems. Loss of power when driving, complete loss of power after turning it off for 10 minutes. Most annoying thing is that the Ford Dealer's solution is always for me to get it towed into them (50km). I really miss my Hilux (although I enjoy the extra power and comfort of the Ranger when it's working)

I really wanted a brand new Hilux, but local Toyota dealers were worse than ..........................
Most often repeated by their sales team was Toyota hold their value, we were cash buyers but would not do a discount of any sort unless we had CRT card or could access fleet discount, wtf
Ripped up the bank cheque in front of the guy and walked out.

Brought a Colorado via dealer that provided service and a bloody sharp deal and has provided really top service ever since (yes they are not cheap)

Will never go back to local Toyota after that, I don't give second chances any more.

I'm not sure personally I would want a hybrid as an off-road vehicle if I were doing ANY offroad at all. Just for a round-town car then maybe

Man, you guys make it really really hard for us 1990's Nissan patrol/Toyota Landcruiser guys to look forward to a new truck! The power and bells and whistles may be fine and dandy, but the gremlins and electronic dramas sound like anathema to me. I am retired and in no hurry to be anywhere quicker than I need to be.

Yep. The new pattern anything is always nice, but after being around several of the new model trucks including the Toyota hybrids I'm not in any hurry at all to get rid of my 2013 Ranger (right on the crossover point PX1 and PX2, PX2 on the plate for the 3500Kg tow rating but same visuals as the PX1's). The new trucks have been kneecapped, hamstrung, and ball knotted by the emissions bullshit and it's a bloody shame.

After towing big gear with the little engine trucks, I'm really disappointed as they pull OK with the gearing but there is no engine braking assistance at all period and the brakes soon start to feel like it. The computers and electronics are an obvious failure point and require a specialist and highly knowledgeable individual to sort them if something weird goes south. There are not many people in this class in NZ - and it makes it very hard. I had to sort the truck I have now when the PCM went screwy - dealer walked on it and told me a BS story about what needed to happen which would not have fixed it - diagnosed mechanical faults when it was PCM and electronics and doesn't look like anything mechanical was the cause. Took a LOT of datalogging to confirm the cause of the fault, as the codes it was throwing were generic and non-specific to the CANBus and comms codes which it should have been throwing...

Think ill see what price i can get on a dmax .unsure of auto or manual
I could go navara as I can get a good price but thought I'd change brand.

15 months ago I was in the market for a new Ute. Test drove the Hilux, Ranger and Dmax. Im a weekend warrior not a tradesman so no constant heavy load in the tray. Their all set up differently and the unladen ride varies a lot between them. Go have a drive of them before you fall in love with an idea. Probably good to look at the Triton as well. Always a value proposition and well regarded here.


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