Thread: Hilux hybrid.4wd vs dmax ls 4wd

Originally Posted by No.3

Which means that for everything EXCEPT stop-start driving in traffic the system is completely useless, and only costing you money in fuel burn and wear and tear due to the extra weight you are lugging around and that extra weight simply costs you payload. Completely stupid and ill-conceived, incompetently executed and only good for the advertising teams to spout crap at you. It is really that bad.

What Toyota should have done, was incorporate a motor assembly into the driveshaft or on the rear diff or the back of the transfer case so that the thing could be utilised to help the vehicle off the line reducing wear and tear and provide some additional engine braking ability again minimising wear and tear. As it stands, unless you are an 'urban warrior' or your job is in town in peak and stop-start traffic you are paying huge $$$ for useless weight.

Also, that small 48v battery isn't under the rear seat, it's under the rear tray and apparently has to come out to allow things like towbars to be fitted. A couple of the hybrid hiluxes have created issues with the anti-theft setup and the 48v batteries not liking being removed which stopped the hybrid system from functioning as the anti theft setup refused to play once the battery was refitted and had to be replaced/reset/farted about with to make it work again.

Just about everything you’ve written there is incorrect.

The electric motor does assist the vehicle off the line as the electric motor is also driving the crankshaft when you’re accelerating. I don’t understand why you think putting the electric motor further down the drivetrain would be more efficient.

The electric motor, like all hybrids is a motor/generator combined so it does provide a measure of engine braking under deceleration as the engine is driving a generator to recharge the battery. You don’t get this energy from nothing, it has to come from increased deceleration. This is a pretty fundamental concept for any hybrid and to claim it somehow doesn’t work for the Hilux is certainly questionable.

You are completely incorrect about the placement of the battery. It is under a rear seat. You need to stop reading Facebook mate, the battery does not need to be removed to install a towbar. That is just complete bollocks.

Many modern cars have issues with disconnecting batteries, this is not unique to Toyota. I’m not sure why you would want to disconnect the 48V battery as it is not something you can service your self in any way.