Just bought a new hunting wagon.

Brother and I have been looking for a cheap 4wd or Awd vehicle that we can take hunting, where we dont wish to take our good cars.

Really not looking for a real off-roader. Just something that dosnt cost much to buy or run, That we can take down a few old logging roads in reasonable repair, or across paddocks, and also that we can leave on the roadside for a day or two and not be concerned about coming back to find it damaged or gone.

Was looking around a car yard the other day and passed a Nissan Juke and really was surprised to find it was not just Awd, but selectable 2wd/4wd as well.

We looked at it, and reasonable ground clearance, short wheel base, with not much hanging over either end, peppy little 1.6 turbo and cheaper than most other rav4 Suzuki type similar vehicles.

So we took the risk and Now I guess will find out how it will actually go. Aim is too keep its on road licences for a couple or 3 of years before it becomes the next farm ATV.

Anyone used one? any pros and cons worth knowing about?

Look after it,it will get you there.Its not a river rock basher,enjoy.

What year? Here is the 2017 advertising: https://www.nissan.co.nz/vehicles/ne...rformance.html

Is it a cvt gearbox?

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Its 2011, I presume it does have a CVT.

avoid like the plague!

I like your logic whanahuia, plenty of places in north island where this vehicle would be perfect and no sweat if it gets damaged or pinched should be cheap insurance too.
No need to outlay big dollars on extreme off roading vehicle, plenty of game within walking distance of most carparks...
and most carparks are full of expensive 4x4s with owners scared to scratch the paint work, so what's with need to throw dollars away.
Something I could go for myself, so will await for a review.

Maybe a manual for me though, I see the juke has that option.

Can't see anyone stealing it, so that's another good thing...might break a window and steal my handbag though:)

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avoid like the plague!

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But, if you avoid everything with a CVT you're fast running out of options in the smaller vehicles. Only the full size seem to have real gearboxes now, and if you prefer manual well, you're an obsolete fossil aren't you!

To be honest, Ive been told to avoid nearly every vehicle other than Hilux. Mitsi's have issues with shocks, Suzuki and Honda with trans- presume same type of issue, Ford... lets not go there... From what Ive seen the best thing to do is change the oil in transmission now, and then again every 40,000 ks. It's not going to be doing many long trips so 40,000 Ks is likely close to 3 years anyway.

And I can buy 3 or more of these for the cost of similar age Hilux.

Photos?

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To be honest, Ive been told to avoid nearly every vehicle other than Hilux. Mitsi's have issues with shocks, Suzuki and Honda with trans- presume same type of issue, Ford... lets not go there... From what Ive seen the best thing to do is change the oil in transmission now, and then again every 40,000 ks. It's not going to be doing many long trips so 40,000 Ks is likely close to 3 years anyway.

And I can buy 3 or more of these for the cost of similar age Hilux.

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Yep, we had dramas with the shocks in the wifes outlander - from brand new that was and a 2021 vintage. I suspect that part of the issue is those of us who are used to commercial and semi-commercial suspension get into those Auckland billiard table set up vehicles and think that they flop all over the road and there's nothing holding the wheels on!

I would not even recommend hilux to be brutally honest - you are paying a shitload for a reputation and they have their share of faults and dodgy bloody shark servicing outfits. Brakes, engine longevity, driveshafts and things like electrics/electronics and bits that bolt onto the engine have all given issues in the past.

Like anything, if you are attentive, get the thing serviced on time and also guide the technicians to investigate things as or if you become aware something has changed you stand the best chance of getting a good run out of whatever vehicle you end up with. Also you need a small amount of luck to get a good one and not have anything spontaneously disassemble itself at a critical moment...

There are always the things that go wrong that aren't related to the brand of vehicle, like my Ranger having the engine management computer (PCM) suffer a failing sensor 5V voltage output regulator that was surging and spiking everything that did something or had a CANBus hub in it that was required to pass a message to something else from an actuator or sensor. That wasn't a Ford (or Mazda) failure - that was damn Bosch and could have happened to any vehicle built with their control gear. Was an utter bitch to track down though, as the unstable voltage it was outputting was making the PCM think that every sensor was still AOK when it was not even powering up. Amazing the thing was still starting and running to be honest.

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avoid like the plague!

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Why ?

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Originally Posted by whanahuia

Its 2011, I presume it does have a CVT.

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I've had 3 used CVT cars (shopping baskets) now, between them I have personally driven over 400,000km and they did a total of 670,000km. I'm a bit of a rough bugger behind the wheel but all the CVTs all held up well. They wouldn't like shock loads like river rocks as Trout said.

pajero io fits the bill
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/c...ing/5253553872

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pajero io fits the bill
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/c...ing/5253553872

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Not a bad wagon for 5700,cheap petrol,easy motor to look after.

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pajero io fits the bill
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/c...ing/5253553872

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HA... had that one in my watchlist all week, contemplating continually.

its that or a may 7 tax bill. But yeh perfect, and not to spendy.

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HA... had that one in my watchlist all week, contemplating continually.

its that or a may 7 tax bill. But yeh perfect, and not to spendy.

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haha ird are pretty good can always just pay off the tax bill over time :cool:

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pajero io fits the bill
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/c...ing/5253553872

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I wouldn’t touch a GDI Mitsi of that vintage.

And the other question for me with the Io's is parts availability. That model was not a NZ-new from my understanding, so for some parts you might be having to import and for a 4wd vehicle that might be subject to the occasional whoops that's a worry. Also if you get dinged in a carpark or whatever, it could conceivably write the thing off just due to shipping.

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I wouldn’t touch a GDI Mitsi of that vintage.

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i dont think all gdi's are the same i know the 6g74 is as shitbox in thw sisters pajero is playing up with fuel issues due to the microfilters i fixed it once told her to sell it she didnt listen now its a non runner and dropped 8000$ in value as a result so thats what you get with them the older ones dont seem to have the issues her's did because of a different generation on engine

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I wouldn’t touch a GDI Mitsi of that vintage.

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Good advice, just googled likely issues...
seems there will be a series of issues, one after the other. So yeh nah.

I'm still trying to nail down exactly what it is with the GDI engines that gets them such a bad rep - mechanic I asked reckoned that the direct injection side of it means that the upper cylinder and intake valves don't get fuel over them and that means they get covered in crap from the EGR and PCV setups. I asked him if blocking the EGR and emissions stuff off fixes the issues and he changed the topic to Mitsi diesels...

Another guy who works with the things was going on about the fuel pump and injectors crapping out due to shit fuel, I asked him if that's the main issue and if that's the case if fitting a 1micron supplementary fuel filter would help. He started going on about the new 2L Ford wet belt engines being a load of crap - not really helpful.

I was chatting to a guy with an early 2000's Paj and his one had to have a lot of work on the bottom end of the engine so I asked him what he thought. He reckoned his was a failed bottom end bearing, but had no idea why as it was being serviced by a dealer and everything else was apparently fine. He reckoned he wasn't towing with it and was mostly doing open road driving and longer trips so shouldn't have been anything to do with that.

So I don't really know - without being able to pin that on something other than crap fuel and the effects of that on the fuel system which a lot of different designs are affected by in some way I think it's a bit of an urban legend thing. A bit like the PX Rangers and BT50's being really prone to blowing up where in reality for the numbers of them on the road the stats are not out of line with anything else in terms of failures.

I am wondering if what we did on the older LPG engines would help with the gunking up issues by dosing upper cylinder lubricant into the system by vacuum dosing direct into the manifold. Morey used to do a dosing kit for their upper cylinder lubricant - I think they call it a Power Booster kit or somesuch...

Why to all the shit things to look out for in a car have 3 letters

A mechanic I know says that GDI stands for "Guaranteed Dealer Income"

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Why to all the shit things to look out for in a car have 3 letters

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Ha, yep! Although a couple of makers don't abbreviate and just use the whole word to describe their nightmares. Also, I don't think I'd be without SRS, ABS and ALH now to be fair.

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I've had 3 used CVT cars (shopping baskets) now, between them I have personally driven over 400,000km and they did a total of 670,000km. I'm a bit of a rough bugger behind the wheel but all the CVTs all held up well. They wouldn't like shock loads like river rocks as Trout said.

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I have heard the CVT's now are a lot better than the earlier ones. The manufacturers had to up there game because of the problems. Who knows.