Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

DPT Ammo Direct


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 15 of 15
Like Tree23Likes
  • 3 Post By BRADS
  • 1 Post By Bonecrusher
  • 1 Post By XR500
  • 1 Post By Beetroot
  • 10 Post By stagstalker
  • 1 Post By XR500
  • 2 Post By XR500
  • 2 Post By MSL
  • 1 Post By XR500
  • 1 Post By Bobba

Thread: KTM TPI Dirt Bikes

  1. #1
    Member stagstalker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Location
    North Island, New Zealand
    Posts
    2,173

    KTM TPI Dirt Bikes

    Any dirt riders on here running or used KTMs recent TPI bikes in the XC or EXC models? How did they go and how were they for reliability/issues etc over an older carb model? Power delivery differences?

  2. #2
    Member BRADS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Central Hawkes Bay
    Posts
    9,533
    Yeah mate used them a lot, no reliability issues I've heard of.
    There a great bit of kit and you wouldn't regret it.
    The power delivery is a hard one to answer, the late model carbs on the eruo bikes were so good anyway.
    But yes definitely smoother power, way ahead on cold starts, laying it down etc


    Sent from my SM-S906E using Tapatalk
    7mmsaum, Savage1 and stagstalker like this.

  3. #3
    Member Bonecrusher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Tauranga
    Posts
    1,147
    I've got a xc-f 350 not a TPI but my 2c worth great machines the KTM's this is my 3rd one go to a Berm Buster the orange bikes will be there in abundance though their asking price for a new one is getting steep
    stagstalker likes this.

  4. #4
    Member stagstalker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Location
    North Island, New Zealand
    Posts
    2,173
    Cheers guys, on my third YZ250 atm setup for the riding I do - cross country/enduro stuff. Love it but i’m thinking it’s time to get on something a bit more modern with a good e-start for those technical places and all the other better gear coming on KTMs these days. Used to have a 300 exc and it was a beast of a bike but just found it a bit soft for playing on tracks and fast stuff so thinking the XC would be a good compromise. 250 XC probably 2017+ is what i’m watching out for I think.

  5. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2020
    Location
    Central North Island
    Posts
    4,930
    These days any of the Euro 2 stroke enduro bikes are weapons. Yes Yamaha have the advantage of KYB suspension, but the rest of the bike is stuck in the last decade. The Japs appear to have no interest in maintaining any edge in this area of the sport.

    The TPI's do give you insane mileage for a two stroke, but as already said, the last of the carbs were pretty much faultless anyway, and can have less electronic gremlins visit you.

    KTM is such a big company now, that customer service is a shadow of its former self from the 90's. Just look at their ridiculous reluctance to update their electric leg. massive issues for an entire decade, until the Euro opposition came along and developed ultra reliable elecy starts that they had to do something. Was a pretty poor show for the supposed 'leader' of the pack.
    stagstalker likes this.

  6. #6
    Member Beetroot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Morrinsville
    Posts
    3,007
    Quote Originally Posted by stagstalker View Post
    Cheers guys, on my third YZ250 atm setup for the riding I do - cross country/enduro stuff. Love it but i’m thinking it’s time to get on something a bit more modern with a good e-start for those technical places and all the other better gear coming on KTMs these days. Used to have a 300 exc and it was a beast of a bike but just found it a bit soft for playing on tracks and fast stuff so thinking the XC would be a good compromise. 250 XC probably 2017+ is what i’m watching out for I think.
    On the older KTMs used to come with different power valve springs that you could use to smoothen or sharpen up power delivery.
    The TPI bikes appear to be easily adjustable, such that you could tune it for smoother power on for enduro type riding or shaper hitting power for MX.
    stagstalker likes this.

  7. #7
    Member stagstalker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Location
    North Island, New Zealand
    Posts
    2,173
    Thought I would do a quick follow up on this. I was all set to get a nice secondhand KTM when a friend brought to my attention that GasGas is now basically just a red KTM and they had their 2022 bikes going at stupid good price (the 2023 bikes are exactly the same, no updates other then graphics). Basically I could get a brand new bike for the price of a second hand KTM, no brainer! So here we are with my new GasGas EX250. Rode it for the first time today and wow! I’ve loved my YZ250 but this thing is just so much smoother. Looking forward to the next XC race!
    Attached Images Attached Images   
    Seventenths, NRT, JoshC and 7 others like this.

  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2020
    Location
    Central North Island
    Posts
    4,930
    Nice!

    That's about 2 decades worth of 2 stroke development ahead of the stuck in the muds Jappers. You won't know yourself
    stagstalker likes this.

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2020
    Location
    Central North Island
    Posts
    4,930
    Just read up the specs for this particular bike. They come standard with a lithium ion starter battery, how goods that! My LiIon battery in my 300 is now 5 years old. Don't get that out of a standard battery, and it can sit for six months and burst into life like you ran it yesterday.

    I have a mate with a KTM 300 tpi, and he raves about the fuel consumption. He gets about twice the miles I get out of my geared down carbed 300, when he rides it on the road (yes, he rode it from Te Awamutu to ride the Dusty Butt). Best he got was 22km/L

    My only concern would be it meters oil at an average of 80:1 They don't appear to mind that, but they haven't been running them like that for a decade, like I have with my 300: 540 hours on only one piston change @40:1

    The only other concern I have is they have used the typical KTM low hanging expansion chamber setup. Depends on your riding terrain, but I jump a lot of rubbish and logs and the Beta tucks the expansion chamber up about 100mm higher than the KTM stable seem to do.

    All in all a lovely bike. The design and build quality of these generation of bikes means that your riding to maintenance ratio will be maximised
    stagstalker and Black Rabbit like this.

  10. #10
    Member stagstalker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Location
    North Island, New Zealand
    Posts
    2,173
    Yup I ran a P3 carbon pipe guard on my YZ250 so i’m trying to source a new one for this bike. Will be getting a skid plate too as I do a bit of enduro stuff.

  11. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2022
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    1,453
    Quote Originally Posted by XR500 View Post

    The only other concern I have is they have used the typical KTM low hanging expansion chamber setup. Depends on your riding terrain, but I jump a lot of rubbish and logs and the Beta tucks the expansion chamber up about 100mm higher than the KTM stable seem to do.
    Well you must be a big guy over 180cm and weight up to 180 lbs. I think the expansions are adjustable to varied riders. I am not big guy, only 175cm tall, sitting on a WR 450, I only can touch ground with toes only, with boots on. Maybe I was doing not very correct, but I like to set my sag little faster.
    Always In pursuit of my happiness...No matter the costs.

  12. #12
    MSL
    MSL is offline
    Member MSL's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    6,471
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Rabbit View Post
    Well you must be a big guy over 180cm and weight up to 180 lbs. I think the expansions are adjustable to varied riders. I am not big guy, only 175cm tall, sitting on a WR 450, I only can touch ground with toes only, with boots on. Maybe I was doing not very correct, but I like to set my sag little faster.
    Exhaust expansion chamber, big shiney thing curled round the motor.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    XR500 and NAKED_GOOSE like this.

  13. #13
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2020
    Location
    Central North Island
    Posts
    4,930
    Both are correct But I was primarily referring to the clearance under the bike for obstacle hopping.

    But yes, 187cm and 105kg rider here
    rugerman likes this.

  14. #14
    Member Bobba's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Location
    Ngaruawahia
    Posts
    1,294
    Perfect choice of bike number.
    stagstalker likes this.

  15. #15
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2022
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    1,453
    Quote Originally Posted by XR500 View Post
    Both are correct But I was primarily referring to the clearance under the bike for obstacle hopping.

    But yes, 187cm and 105kg rider here
    I am still afraid of doing pivot turn on regular dirt bike with seat `s high of 950mm, tried several times but can `t do it right completely. My Bio father is or was 185cm, if I have 178cm, I think I can handle it very but as said only 175cm, weight now is about 72kg, lost lot of muscle in these 3 years. KTM, I think the one suit me is freeride 350cc.
    Always In pursuit of my happiness...No matter the costs.

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. E-bikes, E-hunting bikes - what've you got?
    By mudgripz in forum Outdoor Transport
    Replies: 74
    Last Post: 13-11-2023, 06:18 PM
  2. Anyone got experience with the Forza Dirt Bikes?
    By Dublin in forum Outdoor Transport
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 08-06-2021, 10:40 AM
  3. MD dirt drags 2014
    By mohawk in forum Outdoor Transport
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 14-09-2014, 11:14 PM
  4. Dirt cheap Sako on trademe
    By stug in forum Firearms, Optics and Accessories
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 03-12-2013, 10:21 PM
  5. Dirt Karts
    By mohawk in forum Other outdoors, sports, huts and tracks
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 22-08-2013, 11:13 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!