Thread: LPG a word of warning

Yea most dont....

Yeah but that wasn't a health and safety issue that was a criminal act in my opinion, knowingly done?

Relevant and workable H&S is good. Over the top rubbish like this is well out of hand and really stifling small business. The old nut about there being a difference between scratching your arse and tearing it. Much is just bureaucratic overload from idiots on a personal power trip.

Originally Posted by gadgetman

Relevant and workable H&S is good. Over the top rubbish like this is well out of hand and really stifling small business. The old nut about there being a difference between scratching your arse and tearing it. Much is just bureaucratic overload from idiots on a personal power trip.

You have a way with words!

It fucked England, the unions did most of it and health and safty finished it. Ozzy had strong unions then massive heath and safety industry.........

A bit is good...turn it into a cash cow and watch your country go bankrupt

I'll get my dad to write you two a hot work permit

I don't often participate in serious threads, except when it a 'What caliber" thread, I love those they are serious.

However.
We down here have spent the last two years trying to make a company rising from the ashes of one that just couldn't manage
our plant has been bought by an Aussie firm, who have said , make or break.
I'm part of the management of this.

We provide employment , in a small town for over 100 families. or at least we will as long as we can
I ferociously belive a man or a woman that works for us should go home in the same state that they arrived in.

However, there seems to be a whole industry dedicated to making it almost impossible to operate machinery , and it has been bred in, i get prospective employees asking about possible hazards.

What do you do? seems to me that maybe
The best propects for continuing emploment is to join the health and safety industry.

Originally Posted by jakewire

I don't often participate in serious threads, except when it a 'What caliber" thread, I love those they are serious.

However.
We down here have spent the last two years trying to make a company rising from the ashes of one that just couldn't manage
our plant has been bought by an Aussie firm, who have said , make or break.
I'm part of the management of this.

We provide employment , in a small town for over 100 families. or at least we will as long as we can
I ferociously belive a man or a woman that works for us should go home in the same state that they arrived in.

However, there seems to be a whole industry dedicated to making it almost impossible to operate machinery , and it has been bred in, i get prospective employees asking about possible hazards.

What do you do? seems to me that maybe
The best propects for continuing emploment is to join the health and safety industry.

The only go ahead industry's at the moment are health and safety and corrections, so when we all cant beat em and join em and we are all employed in health and safety or in a correctional facility who will pay us?

If they let me take a gun to work i could possibly do corrections.

Love a good OH&S bash,
There is a clear demarcation point when large companies and OH&S managers start making shit, sorry 'policy' up for the sake of it.
At this junction the whole thing becomes a pointless joke.

I contract for one company that actually has a promulgated procedure for using stairs. They have a hand out sheet outlining their basic safety ethos, which has cartoons on it.
Don't get me wrong, there is a place for effective risk management, but when adults in the work place start getting treated like children then the intent has been lost.

Not really sure what these last few posts have to do with the carriage of dangerous goods, all the legislation around DGs is pretty clear & concise and has been for a long time.
However, with out knowing all 3 sides to the story, you'd have to say a self employed tradesman would benefit more from an explanation and warning about the ins and outs of carrying LPG than a monsterous fine. If the warnings aren't heeded then I guess it's a fair cop.

Its a shame that they seem to base policy on the idiots who are so clumbsy/daft they could hurt themselves in bed. Do they start teaching them about it at school these days? To get them thinking and preparing for whats out there? Polytech etc is probably too late, they are in the cant hurt me im bulletproof phase

They must do gibo, teach at school or at least poly
as i said above, i'm now getting asked about hazards in our workplace, as often as 'How much'

Originally Posted by jakewire

They must do gibo, teach at school or at least poly
as i said above, i'm now getting asked about hazards in our workplace, as often as 'How much'

They maybe being coached to ask at interviews so as to appear as a safe worker.

I thought this was interesting . A good mates job is recruitment & H&S , he has to go to regular meetings to learn about H&S changes etc . The new thing is making an employer accountable for any failings is getting past down to small business . We all know this but the thing many are not aware of is if your wife say is a director /parnership etc as we all do to bring taxes to a manageable level . If I fell of a roof and Died or serious injury , my mrs gets the fine ,enough to cripple her and the kids . Its happend a couple of times already .