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Originally Posted by turner nz

Foton Tunland 4x4 | Road Test Review | The Rural, NZ

Worth a read

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Reads more like advertising. The one comment it not too good either.

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I have one with only 21000Ks on the clock and have had many major issues. The gearbox needed to be replaced, the air con failed, the key fell apart, the licence plate light fell off (twice). But the worst problem was when I was in 3rd gear slowing down to go around a 35KPH corner. I was not using the accelerator at all and was lightly braking as I approached the corner. Then unexpectedly the engine revved up to 5000RPM throwing me back into my seat. Fortunately, I was able to depress the clutch and stop in time before flying off the edge of a mountain. These vehicles are not fit for sale.

John (02-Sep-2016 12:09 PM)

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Originally Posted by gadgetman

Reads more like advertising. The one comment it not too good either.

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nup comment seems to describe some sort of new automotive laxative.man would need to be double incontinence panted and then the neoprene waders over them in case the bitch described decide to overrev again!!

Just get a hilux, then get a trusty old courier to tow it round with :)

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Originally Posted by gadgetman

Reads more like advertising. The one comment it not too good either.

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thats the part that was worth a read.... i wouldn't touch Chinese utes for now , there getting good but dont think there there yet, seen great walls rusting on the lot..... speckled rust on the deck... but who knows maybe the fotons have cracked it.

i take that back........... https://www.facebook.com/Fotontunlandproblemsaustralia/

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Originally Posted by gadgetman

Reads more like advertising. The one comment it not too good either.

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Probably a Ford or Toyota dealer trolling.

I think your buggered either way these days, there are bad stories about every brand out there. Touch wood I've had a bloody good run out of my Toyota's (landcruisers 80, 100, 200's and Hiluxs), The Mitsi seems to be going strong and I was hesitant about buying one, it's only done 60K, had a good run out of my holden utes (V6 & V8's) and probably going to end up with a ranger by the end of the day (never thought that would happen). My sisters Wildtrack actually just shat it's self over the weekend @ 130,000k, not sure what yet.

They are all much of a muchness now, to me it comes down to the deal that they will do and dealer relationships, never thought I would have anything but Toyota's. My last Hilux I only done 3500k in it and got rid of it.
If you don't want to loss money on vehicles, buy a pushbike.

Damn I'm starting to miss old smokey now. She was slow and I think the injector pump was starting to die but it cost me fuck all to keep running over the 9 years I had it.

what ever late model ute you buy its worth extending the warranty or buying a warranty for peace of mind. just my opinion :) shouldn't have to but it seems every brand has its issues.

The only complaint I've heard about the Isuzu D Max is they're fairly agricultural in comfort. As in engine noise, and the ride isn't as nice as the others.But isn't that what a tough 4wd is. Other than that, no mechanical issues that I'm aware of
I'd prefer something that'll get me there and back in one piece, rather than broken on side of the track

I reccomend the pre 2006 Ford Couriers and Mazda Bountys.

Only real problems they have are a weak 5th gear, clog radiators and chew glow plugs.

Get one that has already had gearbox and/or head replaced or has low KMs and change the radiator, glowplugs are a non issue.

Those utes are pretty close to bullet proof, as bad as the above reads.

......glow plugs are a non issue.........

Until one breaks off in the hole apparently:P

That's also not a major, snapped one off in a courier 6 or so years ago, it's still in there and the ute is still being flogged, 475,000km so far

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Originally Posted by Savage1

I reccomend the pre 2006 Ford Couriers and Mazda Bountys.

Only real problems they have are a weak 5th gear, clog radiators and chew glow plugs.

Get one that has already had gearbox and/or head replaced or has low KMs and change the radiator, glowplugs are a non issue.

Those utes are pretty close to bullet proof, as bad as the above reads.

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They don't have a weak fifth gear, the problem is the gear sits high in the box so when towing or lugging it up hills etc in fifth it can get hot as its not submerged enough in oil, extra 500ml of oil in the box over reccomended and its a non issue

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Originally Posted by MSL

That's also not a major, snapped one off in a courier 6 or so years ago, it's still in there and the ute is still being flogged, 475,000km so far

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Truck twins!

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extra oil in the box you say....now thats interesting i was always told it was a weak gear also, mine hasn't popped yet at 213,000 maybe i'll change the oil and over fill like you say, how did you find this out? also i love my bounty just find it abit gutless mid range sometimes, looking for a galv flat deck for it at the moment if anyones knows of one?

good truck here, if i didn't already have one id buy it Mazda Bounty Dbl Cab Td 2000 | Trade Me

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Originally Posted by turner nz

extra oil in the box you say....now thats interesting i was always told it was a weak gear also, mine hasn't popped yet at 213,000 maybe i'll change the oil and over fill like you say, how did you find this out? also i love my bounty just find it abit gutless mid range sometimes, looking for a galv flat deck for it at the moment if anyones knows of one?

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Bought truck off my dads buddy who is a diesel mechanic and he rebuilt the box before I bought it, he mentioned that he had done a few of them for a mine company on the west coast and first one he opened he knew it was a design flaw straight away and all the failed gears he had seen had signs of extreme heat stress, run an extra 500ml and the problem goes away

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Originally Posted by Mauser308

Of everything available these days, the pick for towing of the utes would have to be the BT50/Ranger with the 3.2L motor. They have issues, same as anything but get the extended warranty. The issue with everything else, is either the engine is too small, the gearing is too high or the power comes in at far too high an rpm.

The ranger and bt50 have the most driveable powerband for towing and off road work, the downside with them is the suspension is utter crap from the factory and the electronic gizmos tend to die young, very young.

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And dont ever take the battery out or leave it flat for more than a few mins......can get real messy apparently.

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What are the '04 Hilux's like? Before they went to the new shape and engines?

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Originally Posted by Beavis

What are the '04 Hilux's like? Before they went to the new shape and engines?

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Nice

Push button 4wd on the gearlever and decent articulating suspension for the average hunter

Quiet at highway speeds and good gearing/torque curve for tight back country roads.

Have owned a few of them, now using the new ones and no problems at all, but the suspension is much firmer on the new ones.

I'd use an 04 again in the blink of an eye

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Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

Bought truck off my dads buddy who is a diesel mechanic and he rebuilt the box before I bought it, he mentioned that he had done a few of them for a mine company on the west coast and first one he opened he knew it was a design flaw straight away and all the failed gears he had seen had signs of extreme heat stress, run an extra 500ml and the problem goes away

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Oh how a little bit of knowledge goes a long way:thumbsup:

Anyone got a vw amarok?

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Originally Posted by Sideshow

Anyone got a vw amarok?

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Been running one for 3yrs, probably the most comfortable of the utes on road, there are better off road.
You can get more bells and whistles for less on things like the Rangers.
Wouldn't choose one for heavy towing, but will keep this one for another 100K.

Ghastly garbage all of them. Buy an LN106 and delight in the power of a totally mechanical naturally aspirated 2.8 litre diesel and the stunningly smooth ride of 2 leaf sprung solid axles below 1600kg of rusty body roll

Would love a GU chopped like this,
https://trademe.co.nz/1211711653

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Originally Posted by Snowgrass

Would love a GU chopped like this,
https://trademe.co.nz/1211711653

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About 15 grand overpriced tho imo.

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Originally Posted by gimp

Ghastly garbage all of them. Buy an LN106 and delight in the power of a totally mechanical naturally aspirated 2.8 litre diesel and the stunningly smooth ride of 2 leaf sprung solid axles below 1600kg of rusty body roll

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Oi! You been in my truck.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

About 15 grand overpriced tho imo.

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Finding one under 300k isn't easy either. Will stick with the GQ.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

About 15 grand overpriced tho imo.

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Nah, I sold my 94 lwb GQ turbo for 16k

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Originally Posted by Timmay

Nah, I sold my 94 lwb GQ turbo for 16k

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Thats more like it.
If for instance you had spent 15 on it it doesn't then make it worth 30.

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@slobster?

My work vehicle is a Isuzu D-Max; now coming up to 60K. So far it's been absolutely reliable. Find it comfortable and economical. Heaps of low end torque and good highway grunt.

I bought a 2015 Triton yesterday. They sound reasonably reliable.

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Originally Posted by Beavis

I bought a 2015 Triton yesterday. They sound reasonably reliable.

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We have one as work vehicle , can't complain about it yet ( touch wood), and they are good buying. I just got a ranger about a week ago. I think I should have kept looking.

I'd be going for a tunland or a triton . I got a tunland 3 years ago when they first came out and can't fault it for 32k. Hasn't missed a beat just coming up to 60k on the odo. Tows well and is a beast on fuel

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Originally Posted by Sika Seeker

I'd be going for a tunland or a triton . I got a tunland 3 years ago when they first came out and can't fault it for 32k. Hasn't missed a beat just coming up to 60k on the odo. Tows well and is a beast on fuel

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Good good news there

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Originally Posted by mikee

Which is why I'm about to get my 1993 Pajero fixed even if it costs a bit. The alternative is to buy a replacement and maybe have all the same issues with a vehicle that cost more to begin with. I think older diesels maybe were built to last more than 100,000Kms unlike the modern ones

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We got a 2004 Pajero had 190kms when we brought it and is now at 320kms 5 years later ,used for towing and run around and have had no major problems at all ,came with full service history from Mitsubishi up to when I got it now I service it myself ,replaced all the usual things that wear out ,

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Originally Posted by Bonecrusher

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My new truck Hilux copy I couldn't justify spending 22K on a 2nd hand truck with 150K on the clock so I brought this which was one of the distributors vehicle. A series 2 model which has been enhanced since the initial traction control & hill descent features added.
It has some surprising features can't fault it's performance so time will tell

2.8L Cummins Diesel, Getrag gear box, Dana differientials, Bosch electric's, McPherson suspension

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Foton still going well absolutely no issues

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Originally Posted by Bonecrusher

Foton still going well absolutely no issues

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Saw an add for them last night and it got me thinking..... Just looking now and 3year/100km warranty, standing behind their product