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Bough a dmax in manual a year back. Didn't want a slush box

Originally Posted by gonetropo

Bough a dmax in manual a year back. Didn't want a slush box

now - we all want a land cruiser -come on admit it- the ultimate NZ hunting wagon - but auto - the only reason I can think of to get an auto and spoil a good 4x4 is if you want to crawl along behind ones beloved daisys in the race leading up to the cow shed - I will allow that -other than that you are a Dauklander stuck in traffic all day and ya never ever stick it in 4x4

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

now - we all want a land cruiser -come on admit it- the ultimate NZ hunting wagon - but auto - the only reason I can think of to get an auto and spoil a good 4x4 is if you want to crawl along behind ones beloved daisys in the race leading up to the cow shed - I will allow that -other than that you are a Dauklander stuck in traffic all day and ya never ever stick it in 4x4

Not even!
I have driven heaps of cruiser and patrols.
Great machines till you get in the mud and then next to useless, just to heavy!
If you really want to offend a person from the land calling them a dorklander will do it!

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Originally Posted by andyanimal31

Not even!
I have driven heaps of cruiser and patrols.
Great machines till you get in the mud and then next to useless, just to heavy!
If you really want to offend a person from the land calling them a dorklander will do it!

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holy moly you got that completely around the wrong way - my argument was only against auto gear box in a 4x4- I am very much a man of the land thank you

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

holy moly you got that completely around the wrong way - my argument was only against auto gear box in a 4x4- I am very much a man of the land thank you

Come on. With an auto its easier to steer and hold a beer at the same time.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Come on. With an auto its easier to steer and hold a beer at the same time.

well I have a huge back ground in 4x4 and give me a manual gearbox every day - if you are in deep shit and you need to move just a little bit a clutch gives better control - its positive feel against the mushy feel of an auto - look at what the dedicated 4x4 guys run aint no autos

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

well I have a huge back ground in 4x4 and give me a manual gearbox every day - if you are in deep shit and you need to move just a little bit a clutch gives better control - its positive feel against the mushy feel of an auto - look at what the dedicated 4x4 guys run aint no autos

I'm with tahr on this!
Whether manual or auto there are pros and cons in the mud.
And yep in the mud most days

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Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

well I have a huge back ground in 4x4 and give me a manual gearbox every day - if you are in deep shit and you need to move just a little bit a clutch gives better control - its positive feel against the mushy feel of an auto - look at what the dedicated 4x4 guys run aint no autos

I have been running auto 4x4s for almost 20 years.If you want to creep forward you put your left foot on the brake,increase the revs a bit and slowly release the brake.Gives way more control than trying to slip a clutch.Auto box is better all round for off roading/towing/driveability.

No way I would go back to a manual.I honestly looked at a autobox for my Unimog when I decided to upgrade the gearbox that was in it.The reason I didnt was because I couldnt get any reliable info on what the conversion was like.

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

well I have a huge back ground in 4x4 and give me a manual gearbox every day - if you are in deep shit and you need to move just a little bit a clutch gives better control - its positive feel against the mushy feel of an auto - look at what the dedicated 4x4 guys run aint no autos

That’s just not true mate.

Back in the day… then maybe, but these days a modern auto is superior to a manual in almost every way.

The control the modern automatic gearbox gives the driver in the really serious stuff is significantly better and safer than a manual gearbox. In a manual, if you’re hung up on a really steep incline with limited traction on one or more wheels with the suspension articulating opposite ways front to rear, and a shed load of weight, if you come to a dead stop like it or not, and have to put the clutch in and use the brakes, you’ve got problems. Gravity is a bitch. A proper 4WD automatic gearbox largely overcomes that kind of scenario and removes the need to keep on going regardless.

The only downside to an automatic gearbox is how complex they are technically, with the consequent risk of component failure of some kind. If an auto gearbox fails in the middle of nowhere, you are going nowhere (looking at you, Ford & Land Rover). A manual gearbox is more robust in that sense.

Yes this is one of those issues that really comes down to user preference, but having done all the hardest stuff you can do in Africa and Australia, lots in N America and regularly here in the horrible papa hill country of the CNI, if I was to go and do it all again then I would select an automatic gearbox without question.

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

well I have a huge back ground in 4x4 and give me a manual gearbox every day - if you are in deep shit and you need to move just a little bit a clutch gives better control - its positive feel against the mushy feel of an auto - look at what the dedicated 4x4 guys run aint no autos

I USED TO THINK this way too Barry...but not any more..we bought a 2.7 terrano with an auto in it...and no way would I go back to manual...there is only ONE thing better about a manual than an auto...you can tow start it.

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

now - we all want a land cruiser -come on admit it- the ultimate NZ hunting wagon - but auto - the only reason I can think of to get an auto and spoil a good 4x4 is if you want to crawl along behind ones beloved daisys in the race leading up to the cow shed - I will allow that -other than that you are a Dauklander stuck in traffic all day and ya never ever stick it in 4x4

F off ,iv had 4 patrols over the last 35yrs.Not one auto gear box has failed on me.Crawls buitifully over the rocks,thru the mud and deep rivers.They have never failed me.