New Hilux ad

Honestly, makes me feel emotional...

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=4293...53301&_rdr

I reckon this ad is the closest thing possible to my gang down on the farm, without it actually being the gang. Every single one of them drives a Hilux, pretty much every vintage. We’ve even got a Walt. And an Eyebrows.

So this got me thinking.

Who on the forum has got the oldest serviceable, operating Hilux in use today?

No cheating. Photo to prove it. Better still a video.

All other poxy no hoper makes and models, go home. You’re not invited.

Serviceable and operating or road legal..... must be some mid - early 80s floating about

Doesn’t have to be road legal. We have a 1991 single cab flat deck 2.8 diesel (3L) that is allegedly never used on a public road and certainly never ever on bitumen... in use daily doing all sorts of unpleasant jobs and never misses a beat. Unfortunately I don’t have a photograph of it here but I will do soon.

Was up there when they must have been filming this. I wondered what the fuck a boat was doing waaay up there, with no ready access to water:o

Emotional :D Must say, Hilux adds are pretty bloody good. Their marketing guys are pretty onto to it, bar the bloody monkey one....like WTF :XD:

Was waiting for Crump and Scotty to arrive.

Just trying to win the best selling Ute off the Ranger. They had it for 20 odd year till the Ford Ranger took it off them. I guess they got a bit complacent

Iv got an ln65 92 with a 2.8 3l motor with a turbo kit on it the ol girl still goes strong my go to shooting wagon

I just knew all the jealous saddos would come crawling out the woodwork. You can see - feel even - the envy.

Out of interest @7mmwsm, how much of a backhander do you slip the WOF guy every 6 months for your half million clicks Rodeo? $50? A couple of slabs? Don’t say nothing, we all know that can’t be true!

I got given one of those for a day a few months ago, as a courtesy car when our magnificent Gen 8 Hilux went in for its service... I nearly spat the dummy! And then, just as we’re leaving, the guy says hey, please don’t take it off road, like, you know, don’t take it on the farm, cos, well, you know, like, well, er, it’s, it’s, er... WHAT, MAN! SPIT IT OUT! ...it’s er, well this is broken and that doesn’t work and the other isn’t even there any more.

I have the text message I sent the boss here:

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I’ve never been the same since.

Before my current hilux, I had a rodeo that had 470,000km on it when I sold it to the brother in-law.


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I just knew all the jealous saddos would come crawling out the woodwork. You can see - feel even - the envy.

Out of interest @7mmwsm, how much of a backhander do you slip the WOF guy every 6 months for your half million clicks Rodeo? $50? A couple of slabs? Don’t say nothing, we all know that can’t be true!

I got given one of those for a day a few months ago, as a courtesy car when our magnificent Gen 8 Hilux went in for its service... I nearly spat the dummy! And then, just as we’re leaving, the guy says hey, please don’t take it off road, like, you know, don’t take it on the farm, cos, well, you know, like, well, er, it’s, it’s, er... WHAT, MAN! SPIT IT OUT! ...it’s er, well this is broken and that doesn’t work and the other isn’t even there any more.

I have the text message I sent the boss here:

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I’ve never been the same since.

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That black bugger has a hell of a snout on him


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It’s all good, I’m yanking your chain mate. Was probably a bit harsh! Just know that the three 2020 Gen 8 Hilux on the farm, plus the three 2017 Gen 8 before those (they’re already on their second go round) have between them about 700,000km of Western Ruapehu hill country under their belts. And not a single warranty issue whatsoever. If you could see what these vehicles tow... And, these guys are proper rough cunts as they like to tell anyone who cares to ask.

So I don’t get the comments like yours about new Hilux cos if you don’t own one, don’t work one, then an objective opinion must be pretty hard to come by, eh? Just like my Rodeo comments. So yeah I guess the idea of the thread was to get into some Hilux history and find some cool old Hilux trucks amongst out members, instead of another pissing contest. But that was daft, was never going to happen. My fault, was a silly comment to make in the beginning. Enjoy your Rodeo.

My 89 4x4 2.8 DC still going every day.
Pretty good reliability wise.
In saying that the clutch actuation hydraulics are playing up today.
Wouldn't hesitate to drive from end of the country to the other.
Took for a warrant last week and failed on rear handbrake cable.
That arrived today so whack it in and good to go.
As long as I'm not towing anything it gets along at a good clip.
Will post a photo when I remember.


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My 89 4x4 2.8 DC still going every day.
Pretty good reliability wise.
In saying that the clutch actuation hydraulics are playing up today.
Wouldn't hesitate to drive from end of the country to the other.
Took for a warrant last week and failed on rear handbrake cable.
That arrived today so whack it in and good to go.
As long as I'm not towing anything it gets along at a good clip.
Will post a photo when I remember.


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I just bought a 84 5 door Corolla as a run about which is coming in handy today with my hilux clutch playing up .
One lady owner garaged its whole life it's a minter for $800! And 200k.
Just run in

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No longer mine but my last Hilux, 1984 Yn60, A few alterations done. Not such a good family wagon.

Ah! vehicles made in an age where quality counted. Toyota had a knack for making vehicles elegant yet simple (in relative terms) when designers like Honda would make things better yet far too complicated for them to have ultimate longevity.
I think the Top Gear series where they attempted to kill the Hilux cemented its iconic status for the non Hilux owners
Land Rovers remained far too agricultural for continued wide spread appeal (I owned three of them)
Nissans never grabbed market share like the hiluxes did, but filled the towing niche well with their bigger donks

And now Land Rover have lost the plot completely. Its meant to follow in the footsteps of the old classic 'Defender' but err no. :yuush:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkpB8okB-xw&t=719s

Mate up until a Yr ago had an 84 hilux thing was a beast and would go anywhere he sold it for good coin to

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Ah! vehicles made in an age where quality counted. Toyota had a knack for making vehicles elegant yet simple (in relative terms) when designers like Honda would make things better yet far too complicated for them to have ultimate longevity.
I think the Top Gear series where they attempted to kill the Hilux cemented its iconic status for the non Hilux owners
Land Rovers remained far too agricultural for continued wide spread appeal (I owned three of them)
Nissans never grabbed market share like the hiluxes did, but filled the towing niche well with their bigger donks

And now Land Rover have lost the plot completely. Its meant to follow in the footsteps of the old classic 'Defender' but err no. :yuush:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkpB8okB-xw&t=719s

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Been following that since the first check engine,light on the first run.

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My opinion is, the new Toyota adds have gone the same way the new Hilux's have.

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Yeah opinions are worthless without credibility and you kinda stuffed that by mentioning the rodeo....:D

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There are plenty of comments in various threads on this forum, from people who sell, maintain and drive Toyota's that suggest Toyota has pandered to the metro world and gone away from making rugged robust utes like they did in the old days. But I guess some professions can't help look passed the truth and push the outcome they want to see.

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Total and utter bollocks.

What can you do? Pay for @7mmwsm to go over to the Pilbara or central WA and spend a couple of rotations in a massive open pit mine, in a work Hilux? To see for himself why the Hilux has always been and always will be the top selling industrial ute in the mining industry? Maybe that way he'd get a better look at the reality of the situation, rather than through the flawed optics of an internet forum.

It's quite a sight, the carpark where all the utes are stored after coming into Fremantle from Thailand. Rows and rows and rows of white SR Hilux, ready to go to work. Pandered to the metro world? Are you for real?!

All modern utes are rubbish compared to a LN65/LN106, who needs CRD, VSC, ESC, TRC, ABS, IFS, DAC, DPF, etc when you can have leaf springs and an asthmatic mechanically injected 2.4 n/a diesel

I worked open cast in the mid 80's In South Aus. Their Toyota fleet (of LWB and SWB cruisers) was 10 years old and still going strong. I am unsure just how long a modern day Lux is good for???

I'm pretty sure that you won't be able to buy an ecu for a modern 4x4 of any flavor in 30 years time, unlike the 4x4s of the late 80's/90's that are still going strong with spares a dime a dozen for toyos/nissans etc today

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I'm pleased you won't let the rest of us play. Be a bit like getting invited to a 270 or 6.5 crud party.
I'll stick to my half a million km Rodeo thanks.

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The Blue one!?

I’m pretty sure I remember a ride to Kawhia in that, as a primary school kid ha

I've had two Hilux, well one was a surf, I was pretty keen to get rid of the 2008 sheep shagger I mistakenly traded it for
Hidden costs the dealer didn't tell you about but that you had to have done to maintain your warranty purchased with the vehicles" just in case'

Injector seal problems , cracking pistons, early clutch burn outs
Yeah, great ute.

Got 560ks outta my 1990 80s series just toured whole of the south it's my daily driver, hunting truck and farm wag. Toyotas engines are bulletproof

Still the best hilux ad imho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv6aJSh7EMs

One of the best ads was the one where the Rodeo from memory jumped into a corral.
Had one single cab flatdeck 4x4.
It wasn't a bad truck.

Old man had mitsi L200s because the hilux salesman pissed him off by not turning up when he said he would.

And too be honest there isn't much between them all they have 4 round black things that can get you far enough to get stuck.

All brands appear to have the odd horror story and the gist of most is the service or lack of it.

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For Toyota ads, the Ashley pub 10 years ago on a Friday evening was a Toyota sellers dream! Sadly, pubs are almost no-go zones these days thanks to the pleasure Gestapo. My 94 3.0 TD Surf used to be one of the Friday throng. I have owned it 16 years no and wouldn't be without it. It goes wherever I point it and with total reliability, mind you, I am not one of those off-roaders that like to get all four wheels off the ground or drive into unchecked rivers to see how deep they are! Needless to say, I do my own regular servicing.

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thats allright as i was happy with my mitsi that went further and took the abuse that me and my boy's gave it than those over priced hoelux's that cost nearly twice the money.:thumbsup:

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I to own a mitsi but I wish it was a hilux

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To be fair, I find its the bits that connect the black round things to the rest of the parts that seem to make or break the ute. Me ranger came with a lot of promises, but after putting four adults and some luggage in it and bottoming out on every bump it went back to mummy. Took a long time to sort that, Ford washed their hands of it and had to go aftermarket suspension to sort it out. Poxy modern sissy town cars with big boots...

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Yet my Ranger is loaded to the gills with tools every day of the working week, pulls a trailer also loaded to the max and is then emptied and taken over the back at weekends

I've had 3 Hilux-ishes. I like the forward control ones with a good load space and capacity. '84 2x4 2Y (1.8 petrol had a power band like a two stroke), '89 4x4 2L (2.4 diesel would get you anywhere eventually) and currently have a '95 AWD 1KZ (3.0T diesel that's pretty responsive) with just over 150,000 clicks. Every one a manual.

Have been driving the forward control Hilux's ever since I got my license in '80.

@Mauser308 that’s one of the best description of the problems trying to get the Ranger (and other brands) fit for hard work that I’ve read.

The description of the change to handling dynamics is very salient indeed - there are that many guys out there that slap heavy springs onto the rear of the ute and haven’t a clue why the thing drives like a disabled crab afterwards. To be fair, there are dozens of dealers that wouldn’t have a clue either.

In Australia, the GVM upgrade path solves a lot of this. The vehicle goes from the dealer to the suspension shop for a complete suspension replacement, with a kit that is certified by the transport authority as being made by an official “second stage manufacturer” and therefore complying with a long list of technical requirements. Lovells and Pedders are the two main companies certified to do this.

The vehicle is then checked and signed off by an engineer, and only then registered - and the registration reflects the increased load capacity.

What the vehicles owner gets is not just upgraded capacity but a carefully matched set of springs front and rear, so that driving dynamics are not compromised. GVM upgrades are not for the occasional heavy load carrier, as the vehicle will be over sprung for the majority of its use. For the vehicle to drive comfortably you need to have a constant load. I’m so used to driving a heavily sprung ute with light truck tires that I don’t notice the hard ride. I didn’t buy a ute for comfort anyway...

The performance of the vehicle - heavily laden and towing - in the roughest toughest of conditions is very, very impressive. Whilst the GVM upgrade doesn’t exist in New Zealand, the approach to upgrading a vehicle’s suspension can be replicated using the same aftermarket parts, as they are available here.

FWIW as a Hilux man, I’ve got my beady eye on how the factory suspension is performing on the current line-up. On the first batch of GUN26R (three of them), the rear leaf packs were buggered by 60,000km. This was from constant (over) loading and heavy towing by typically irresponsible cockies who have a work it ‘til it breaks mentality. The original springs were replaced with a standard set of springs on two of the vehicles, and the third got a full front and rear upgrade to my specs. By the time the vehicles were sold at three years, the two with the standard springs were very tired (140-150,000km). The third vehicle with the upgrade kit was fine.

The three replacement vehicles (2020) all got upgraded spring kits before they left the dealer. These vehicles have already got 40,000km+ on them. You can feel and see the difference when the 3t trailers are hooked up - the vehicles sit level and don’t wallow around on the road. They don’t trash the rear tyres now, and the traction is much improved. The difference a well matched setup makes is worth every cent.

Picture of the Lovell’s GVM upgrade rear leaf spring pack on a 2014 Hilux. Happen to be replacing the rear axle seals and bearing at the moment, so easy to see...

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Airbags are one of those “Marmite” upgrades, like fat tyres and EGR deletes. For every conversation that supports them there seems to be an equally vociferous conversation that says they are dangerous and risk damaging your vehicle.

My view is that it is very much a case of “depends on application”. I think if you’re cruising the highway towing a caravan in an otherwise standard vehicle, then why not. But with what I do, I don’t want a pivot point on the chassis - created by the airbag - where no pivot point was designed by the manufacturer.

Back in the day in Australia there were several quite high-profile cases of cracked chassis from use of airbags on heavily laden vehicles, in environments where axle articulation was maxed out. This was particularly problematic on the Nissan Patrols, otherwise mostly excellent vehicles. Our chief mechanic for the exploration vehicle fleet in WA flatly refused to fit airbags, and instead went with GVM upgrades, 12 ply narrow LT tyres, big bore oil shocks machined to the spring rates, and on-board compressors. Setting tyre pressure correctly for the conditions and load was just a normal part of driving - for a 200km trip into the camp you might stop to alter pressures four or five times, for sand, extreme corrugations, the old single lane bitumen strips and the sections of tyre wrecking rocks famous for destroying many an Outback trip for the unwary.

Anyway I’m waffling. Airbags? Yeah, nah, maybe.