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@stagstalker asked a couple hilux owners.
2020 D/C auto SR flatdeck, snorkel, 18" rims ATs sitting on 11 never been reset, heavy boot
2021 d/c auto sr5 canopy, tows a trailer a bit around 10-10.5
2022 d/c auto sr5 canopy very low kms sitting on around 11 unsure if thats including towing his 6.5m boat
The 2021 owner said one way to drink diesel is running in cruise control
Know a cocky who does a lot of farming at Waihau Bay and shifting his cattle 12 miles out. LOL. .Quote:
Originally Posted by tetawa
Most engines in those days would run on all sorts of mixs with a bit of octane thrown in. Kerosene mixed up with abit of whisky would get my fathers old Farmal H tractor going it he was short of petrol in the 50-60s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
Noticed a glitch today normally about 11or 12l came right though!
Britain they have a marine fuel that is one colour, a farm fuel thats another and the road is a different one again. Heaven help you if you get caught with the wrong colour in the wrong tank...Quote:
Originally Posted by csmiffy
If you have dye in the fuel, it's a pain in the arse and can screw up your filters bigtime. The colouring chemical they put in at the fuel supplier isn't a dye as such so won't settle out like a dye can. Used to use the purple spray marker dye in diesel at an outfit I used to work at where the diesel was used as a process fuel and we needed to know how the mix was. It was quite hard on the fuel system and one dose of dye would last for several tank fills as it settled out below the tank pickup and you needed to have more in the tank to force it to stain the fuel. The dye also seemed to drag water out of the fuel which was a pain, and the other thing the dye did was it seemed to force the wax to settle out of the diesel at a warmer temperature than otherwise so in a cold snap the fuel filters clogged up with a waxy, wet purple ooze that stained everything that got within 15m... Nasty.
by the sounds of it you could use old cooking oil from the chinese takeaway with a bit of acetone added!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trout
Check out newhilux.netQuote:
Originally Posted by jakewire
It's an Aust based forum. Plenty of info there to consider.
From what I remember Britan has no dye in their road (taxed) diesel, and farm diesel has a dye in it that makes it look orange, quite noticable but is reffered to as 'red' diesel.
They could quickly check road vehicles by dipping tanks or at the water trap.
We never had any issues with the dye effecting any of our machinery.
Pros and cons.
Quick update. I did a week of running to and from work and got some proper numbers to calculate. 587km for 65L of fuel. By my math that gave me 11.07L per 100km. My dash reading has dropped over the week to 12.5L but obviously still quite a ways out as a few of you said it would be. Interesting
10.6l/100 today driving to Christchurch 3.2l ranger basic model 2012 year in manual. Almost empty tray for once too
I’m going to keep an eye on mine and calculate it properly each time I fill up while I drive up to Otorohanga from Temuka and back. So far Temuka to Blenheim was 9.65L/100km using cruise control as much as possible. 2020 sr5 auto bullbar canopy snorkel ome suspension
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There’s an app/website called Fuelly that I use for tracking economy. Add details at each fuel-up and it tracks tank and overall economy. Think they try and sell you a ‘premium’ subscription, but you can do all you need on the basic free setup.
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Originally Posted by stagstalker
When you are filling the tank, are you topping off so you can see the fuel in the filler neck? Or are you filling until the pump detects full and stops automatically?
It varies depending on how bothered I can be lol. This time round I think I topped it up to visual so if I had stopped when it first popped then it would have been around 63 - 64LQuote:
Originally Posted by Flyblown
Cool. For an accurate measurement you need to be topping it up to the point at which you can see the fuel and it is not dropping down into the tank. Then reset your odometer. Then at the next fill you do exactly the same. Only then will you get an accurate fuel consumption calculation.
With an OBD2 scanner like the Scangauge, to calibrate the fuel consumption you do the above three or four times, adjusting the scanner’s calculated consumption to the actual amount of fuel you put in the vehicle. Once it is calibrated it is incredibly accurate - I have 140L fuel tank on my Hilux and I have run it close to empty in outback conditions (>1200km) and the scanner has predicted the refill amount to the nearest litre. This gives you all sorts of useful range statistics.
As we have discussed the actual fuel consumption as properly measured has always been less than on the dash display.
Completely irrelevant for what you want to do but interesting nonetheless. Glad the situation appears to be as predicted.
I wish you never started this post, i done a reset last week after posting info now every time i drive to town i sit the and watch the L per kms.Quote:
Originally Posted by stagstalker
Same! I was pissed off when I took the boat out, it really messed up my lts per 100kms hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by bigbear
At least some get what i was trying to say:DQuote:
Originally Posted by bigbear
Trying to dodge the tax…..Attachment 200973
less than 1 horsepower too so might get cheaper regoQuote:
Originally Posted by Sideshow
This will work then 4x4 and not a cow!Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
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Does anyone know what the optimum final drive gearing is for economy with a hilux ? What are the optimum revs for economy not for torque at 100km
Would it be 18-1900 ?
Well m Ranger in 6th is doing between 1800-1900RPM at 100km but its not an auto and that's the 3.2T diesel
My hilux is up at 2300 and seems too high to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Jack
Checked mine this morning on the way to work… 12.6lt/100ks
2020 double cab with A/Ts and 100 odd kgs of gear in the back fwiw
I'm stunned that fuel economy in modern 4x4's is this 'poor' for want of a better term.
In the mid 90's I rebuilt a series III stage1 v8 Land rover. So permanent 4x4. Dropped a 6.5L V8 diesel out of a Humvee into it. Last of the fully mechanical injection pumps. Highest transfer case gearing available, so engine spins at 2250 @ 100kph (gps checked). 150,000km of hand written notes at each fill, taken over the first decade of it being on the road and it was doing average 12.3L/100km Vehicle weighs 2.3 T empty. Usual brick shaped zero streamlined vehicle that requires earmuffs and a wet weather coat when driving in the rain.
I thought all this super high pressure common rail electronically controlled injection stuff was to increase fuel efficiency?
tomorrow Im off on annual heifer cart home from Tarras....somewhere around 5 hrs down empty and 6 home loaded..... last time we swapped notes I was still in a smaller powered cat engined old shitbox and the "boys" had new scanias n daf.....end of weeks cartage and our daily fuel usage was within 20 litres of each other and it didnt change by more than 10 litres each day for any of us.
its hard yakka on small powered unit...average 30 kmph yes that is right,30kmph..from tarras back to omarama .....
I get better mileage from my 5.5ltr v8 merc
older terrano is doing 2200 at 100kmph....
I drive a 2015 Dmax its averaging 8.3L/100k goes up to 8.8 in the summer.
Previous vehicle 08 SSV holden ute 6L 6speed averaged about 12L/100k
Drove a few thousand K in a Toyota Prado with the 2.8 ? Barbie Doll motor averaged about 10.8L/100k, I thought it was pretty thirsty to be fair, especially as it did stuff all if you stomped on the go louder pedal.
Just changed from a 09 sheep shagger which averaged 9.6l with my heavy tool trailer on to a new lux, flat deck manual, bull bar, side rails, lift kit ,70 series km3 Mts averaging 13.2 L .
Well I don't know, but I drive a Colorado with a newly fitted canopy and i drove it down to E untill I didn't dare any more.
70$ at 288 this evening bought it fleas cock over half way twixt 1/4 1/2.
In vehicle says 13.4L/100
Shouldda bought a Mustang.
No matter what fancy Diesel engine you burn diesel in, diesel is still only capable of yielding around 19 hp per gallon burnt per hour. Ditto petrol, about 12 hp per gallon burnt per hour. So if your Ute engine has to make, say, 80 hp to overcome drive train friction and wind resistance and vehicle mass etc to maintain a particular velocity, it’s always going to burn 4 gallons of diesel an hour.
Without improving the efficiency of the fuel, you cannot expect major gains in consumption.
There's a bit more to that equation than that - but the basics of your argument are correct. The issue with a smaller engine like the Nissan 2.3L sewing machine with 16 hair dryers and a supercharger on them is that it's all producing the power at revs and no torque. So if you alter the drive characteristics by say loading a heavy boat+trailer on the back is the engine can't easily get to the required RPM to produce the required power. End result is a shitload of black smoke out the exhaust and possibly a limp mode DTC for fuel injector operation and oxygen sensor readings out of spec. Ont he other hand, a bigger capacity engine is less economical empty but at heavy load does not struggle so much and uses the fuel more efficiently.Quote:
Originally Posted by ishoot10s
Just checked my 2015 Hilux, last of the 3L turbo's. Has higher profile tyres, 2" lift, snorkel & canopy etc and it averaged 9.7L/hundy on a trip from Lincoln to Wanaka & back. Thats going by the vehicle info, not an actual true calc. Will do a true calc next time around, but I've always thought that my consumption was ok and happy with it.
Just done this in the 2018 2wd triton.
One short trip towing the boat.
One Idle warm up till the windscreen defosted cos I parked too far from the hose.
One trip to the start of Heaphy track and back so winding and hilly roads with 4 adults and a dog and around 150-200kilos of shit in the tray.
Driving economicly but not slowly....at the posted limit or maybe a touch more.
Filled to the tippy tippy top both times.
309.1km + 5% correction for tire size = 324.5 km
29.3 liters
9.03 L per 100km
Filled in mot by time I was back to Richmond dash showed if I continued driving as I was I should get 1090km out of the 75l tank.
I can never keep my foot out of it for that long tho but I did get just shy of 1000km out of a tank driving the nice flat straight roads down south a couple of years ago.
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Yeah it's the hills and the corners that stuffs the fuel economy. Need to get onto those Green bastards and get them to campaign for flat straight roads!!!
had major engine issues today.....truck sat on 1.72kms per litre all the way home......by my rough maths thats 58 litres per hundred KMS..... Farkin pleased Im not paying fuel bill.
Nope. Them are generally whinging plicks at the best of times. One of them was moaning about how in winter the rain made the roads break apart and they end up covered in loose stones and potholes, then five months later in summer the same fella was whining about getting bees in his helmet and it being too damn hot to ride in the middle of the day. I was like aircon, bro, aircon as I walked away.Quote:
Originally Posted by turtle
As far as the fuel economy, I love it when they do this new safer roads lower speed limits BS they always move the new speed limit signs to just after the flat bit of road at the lower speed limit ends so you have to accelerate up the hill rather than on the flat. Awesome.
