This thread was not started by me. These posts were moved here from elsewhere. Jake wire wants new tyres. Mine are fine.
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This thread was not started by me. These posts were moved here from elsewhere. Jake wire wants new tyres. Mine are fine.
Coopers, then.....
I'm partial to my Kumhos but they're probably too chunky for you.
My BFGoodrich are running out so thought I'd try the Cooper stt
What is this you say Tussock, KL71s ???
What I meant by KL71???, is what are they and who makes them
Cooper stt' are 1600 for 4 fitted.
I already did
"While Off-Road Maximum Traction tires are branded with the M+S symbol and able to churn through deep snow, their typical oversize applications and limited use of snow-biting sipes in their large smooth lugs can challenge their on-road wintertime traction on packed snow and icy surface"
Not sure if they are for me.
Righto, I'm saving up for some new tyres
I put a set of Bf Goodrich AT on at 98K now 149K and there is 5-6mm left.
I'm in a surf
I was going to get a set of Cooper stt's, but Tussock has recommend a set of Kumono KL71, or should I just replace the BF Goodrich.
Here, Coopers are the dearest, the the BF's then the KL71.
Mainly on road of course because you have to get where your going to go off road, I have found the BF's good but not in the mud.
What does the panel think,
Bf's were that exact price 50K ago, I've started a topic in the outdoor transport.
Can't shoot anything if i can't get there.
Yes Chains, I also need chains.
Hankook ATS awesome on road but let you down in mud
Hankook MTs average on road but good in mud
Both WELL priced
Chains are cheap. Get some chains.
Cheers Baldbob, don't get much mud, occasionally of course especially in the spring so need ability there, mainly rocky ground and of course some ice and snow.
I'll check them out.
Cheers Tussock, I'll do some homework.
I got the ATs on my hilux.. Ive been through heavy snow on arthurs and hardly missed a beat.. Road noise is minimal (quiet) they have hardly worn in 9000KMs..
I dont see the point in a heavyduty mud tyre when you spend 98% of time on the road.. for the extra gas they chew and the reduced tyre life and excessive road noise...
To me its kinda like going hunting rabbits with a 7mm RUM lol
You gotta have something tho, and full on road tyres is getting silly on a 4x4...
But an AT is a good comprimise for my purposes, I know theres something there if I need a bit of grip lol..
Tussock.
stop playing with your buttons.
Post 11 is the first post and thread starter.
Ive had firestone and bridgestone MTs...(cant member exact models)
And found the mboth very slippery on the road when I needed to brake fast or wanted grip on corners..
The firestones were shit in the mud to they would just fill up with mud and literally become a smoth tyre...
Hes feeding an obsession with cleanliness:sick:Quote:
Originally Posted by jakewire
I had firestone "Wilderness" At's at the start, they were ok but I didn't know enough then to get an idea whether they were good or bad .Then they stopped making them,
As you have said about others, in the mud, I found the BF At's filled up very quickly , to the point I have to put 4 wheel drive on to get out of a gently sloping muddy paddock, as soon as they were on the road though they'd clear out very quickly.
My money out of my own hard earned pocket you wont get better allround performace than the BFG.........Period .....................................And yes i HAVE HAD PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ELSE:P
Kl71 30x9.5 x4= 970 33x 12.5. = 1524 These prices where the best I could get a month ago ,will still be valid . My mate gets 60 ks out of his hilux kl71s (a set a year) have herd other people get less . Bfgs I recon are better in my mind but what you pay for them now I think kl71 is better value for money .
I did in the same sentance ask if there was any pills to fix meQuote:
Originally Posted by Tussock
[QUOTE=7mmwsm;42549] Just put on some Bridgestone Dueller M/T. Now the world is a different place.
did you go to the shop I told you about?
Had a brand new set of cooper at's on the saffy when i brought it,, brought some new rims and and got a set of 32x11.5-15 kl71's to put on for when i go bush ,,,coopers were ok but after a few rims off,,, rims on shit the 71s have stayed on because to be honest i think they do everything better than the coopers ,,,that much so i sold the coopers few weeks back,,,but haha always a "but" they are pretty noisey now they are worn and have not been super happy with kms out of them ,,,,i am a slack fark when it comes to tyre pressures so could be my fault ,,,,,been seriously looking at getting the new release 764 maxis bighorn next havnt got 32's in the country yet ,,,mates got them and loves them,,,had a new set of 32 kl's on backorder for over a year with the importers so a change may be in order.
Had to get new set of tyres for my last warrant ,was running 3 slicks with bolges .Coopers here had a deal going on the Maxis Mudders, knocked down from $300+gst to $240 .Seem OK so far hope I've made the right choice ,looked like a good deal & cheaper than Firestones equivalent by $20 per.
Good advice from experience all, ta
I was under the impression Coopers were the be all and end all of 4x4 tyres but it appears it may not be as easy as that.
I have some more homework to do.
Thats a good price , I was quoted $400.00 each cash price for the stt,Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
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Originally Posted by jakewire
The $240 was gst incl; fitted , their duck shooters special . Maxis Mudder Buckshots & they don't sling shit all up the side of my wagon either.
If they are anything like they used to be like, you will like em. I used them on my old rodeo and got IIRC 65km out of them, farm, offroad and gavel use.5+ years ago now thoQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris
I haven't read all the posts but thought I should chip in with my experiance with KL71's..... better traction on the road wet or dry than my last few sets that were more AT than MT tures, They don't slide well at all on the road, I used to have fun in the wet until I put those on, Had firestone .... umm the ones with mostly square knob's over 90% of the tyre a couple of sets back, no good off road and still not as good as 71's on the road
Down falls... on soft (not hard core) 4x4 runs its just not fun...others slip and slide while you just drive through.... When you try to slide it you nearly rear end the people in front
While new you get next to no road noise, they do get noisier as they wear and not as smooth a ride as they wear down but still seam to grip way better than expected (better than my falcons street tyres). Mine have done 21K round figures and are about half worn... Just about time to put them on TM for someone to pay what I paid new for them and get some more :P
They are not a light car type tyre so have a different feel about them but they seam to be hardy tyres :)
STT's are the mutts nuts, expensive but they last well with good manners on the road and not too much noise. Did a load of research on the 4x4 forums etc before I put them on my pajero which is in storage back in the UK.
Can highly recommend them!
For my 2 cents worth... I now swear by the old style Maxxis Bighorn I gor 80k road use on them and never had traction problems on or off road!
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Are they in nz? MAy be after some 31s as stand in tyres shortly
Check out adenstyres.co.nz. They have some good prices with free delivery.
:thumbsup:
When I was working for Landcorp in Te Anau we always ran the Kumho KL71 MT tyres. They were good for about 10 k's then were shit in the mud, and didn't have the best sideways tractions (I remember this all very vividly!) Once they were worn down to far there would be puncture after puncture until replaced. Garage sure liked us!!
I've got a set of Maxxis Buckshots on the Hilux just the 31x10.5x15 ones. Cost me $220 fitted 4 years ago. I've now done 65k's on them and are still warantable, but not very user friendly when it comes to nasty stuff.
But fitted some more to a 3l hilux couple of months ago for $260 plus fitting, these are 16inch (whatever is equivalent to standard 2001 hilux tyres).
Something of note was the new ones have way less tread than older ones had. Apparently they will wear better, obviously harder compound.
I was wondering about the Cooper's as a decent tyre, but after talking to three guys around here that have had them I won't be going near them. Puncturing like no tomorrow
I've got bfg ats on at the moment that will be due for replacement shortly. (2 more so than the other 2) will be following this thread with interest. interesting reading the different experiences. liked the stiff side walls on the bfgs. they did well enough but not so well that I have a blind loyalty to them. they are a bit tired now and pretty slashed up from climbing around on sharp rock.
Puku, what model of coopers are you talking about here. punctures are no good I travel over a fair bit of rocky ground.
Im on my third set of BFG and havent had a single puncture yet. I have sliced two sidewalls on a knife like rock hidden in grass that im pretty sure no tire would survive.
Vietnamcan, , are your bfg's At's as that is what I have at the moment, have had one puncture and on a couple the side walls are fairly sliced.thought the coopers may be better, but maybe not .
I believe they were STT tyres but am not certain. Looking at the thread pattern I thought they would be real good on the gravel around these parts. But after hearing about them I changed my mind
