Thread: oh dear....... proverbial nail and coffin article?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

How do the new regs on emissions work?
Is it a percentage of "bad" stuff in the exhaust that must not be execeded or a total amount?
How will heavy transport get around them?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe...sion_standards

Heavy transport also affected but they have different regs to follow

Originally Posted by cambo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe...sion_standards

Heavy transport also affected but they have different regs to follow

Just looking at the specs for the different classes of passenger and light comercial none of the emissions requirements have got tighter since 2015. ?

Originally Posted by cambo

Problem is the new emission regulations manufacturers have to abide by now. The reason Toyota, and pretty much everyone else as well, is going V6 is because the V8's wont meet the new regs.
So smaller capacity is the only way to get round it.
The V6 twin turbo actually makes more HP and KW than the V8.

The V8 has been plagued with issues anyway. The EGR system blocks badly, and the engines suck dust in which in turn buggers up the turbos and then engine. We've replaced lots at work.
After seeing what we have to do to them all the time, I wouldn't touch 1...not without a new car warranty anyway.

While i agree to a point.If you choose to bypass the warranty and get rid of the oil mist through the intercooler,egr block and another fuel filter this solves a lot of the issues and gives you a very reliable long lasting engine,Plenty of high km examples floating around oz with zero issues.

Originally Posted by Markgibsonr25

While i agree to a point.If you choose to bypass the warranty and get rid of the oil mist through the intercooler,egr block and another fuel filter this solves a lot of the issues and gives you a very reliable long lasting engine,Plenty of high km examples floating around oz with zero issues.

Yes we have a few that come into work that have done high ks.
Lots on the other hand haven't done feck all, and have fallen over rather hard.
Dust ingress is the biggest killer by far. Lots been tried. Nothing fixed that issue yet.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Just looking at the specs for the different classes of passenger and light comercial none of the emissions requirements have got tighter since 2015. ?

The new specs came out this year. Much more stringent regs. Euro7?
Thats why all the utes are now under 2.8L. Lots of smaller motors with twin turbs to try and make more efficient. Highly strung and wound up like a spring. Watch them blow!

All bullshit greenies blowing smoke up their asses shit.

Originally Posted by cambo

The new specs came out this year. Much more stringent regs. Euro7?
Thats why all the utes are now under 2.8L. Lots of smaller motors with twin turbs to try and make more efficient. Highly strung and wound up like a spring. Watch them blow!

All bullshit greenies blowing smoke up their asses shit.

Ah the newest I saw was 6d 2020 that was on Wiki

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Originally Posted by cambo

Problem is the new emission regulations manufacturers have to abide by now. The reason Toyota, and pretty much everyone else as well, is going V6 is because the V8's wont meet the new regs.
So smaller capacity is the only way to get round it.
The V6 twin turbo actually makes more HP and KW than the V8.

The V8 has been plagued with issues anyway. The EGR system blocks badly, and the engines suck dust in which in turn buggers up the turbos and then engine. We've replaced lots at work.
After seeing what we have to do to them all the time, I wouldn't touch 1...not without a new car warranty anyway.

Interesting what about the later ones withe DPF? problems?

Originally Posted by cambo

Yes we have a few that come into work that have done high ks.
Lots on the other hand haven't done feck all, and have fallen over rather hard.
Dust ingress is the biggest killer by far. Lots been tried. Nothing fixed that issue yet.

Are these mine vehicles that have been abused or the like? Plenty of after market sealed air boxes for them from numerous companies in oz.Most on the 79series forum don't seem to have a issue with the air box myself included.I have found you do need to spend a little initially to stop the known faults right from the start.Pretty solid work horse otherwise and I have broken a few of the other brands.

Originally Posted by cambo

Yes we have a few that come into work that have done high ks.
Lots on the other hand haven't done feck all, and have fallen over rather hard.
Dust ingress is the biggest killer by far. Lots been tried. Nothing fixed that issue yet.

Or are you talking about the 200 series air box fault that was sorted a while back by changing the gasket to solve the issue?

Originally Posted by DemocKot

Interesting what about the later ones withe DPF? problems?

So far DPF hasn't been an issue with them

Originally Posted by Markgibsonr25

Or are you talking about the 200 series air box fault that was sorted a while back by changing the gasket to solve the issue?

No. Dust still gets in. That's the problem.

Originally Posted by Markgibsonr25

Are these mine vehicles that have been abused or the like? Plenty of after market sealed air boxes for them from numerous companies in oz.Most on the 79series forum don't seem to have a issue with the air box myself included.I have found you do need to spend a little initially to stop the known faults right from the start.Pretty solid work horse otherwise and I have broken a few of the other brands.

Not just mine vehicles. Lots been typical use.
70's haven't been as bad. Most have been 200's

Originally Posted by Mauser308

The problem with that 2.8L thing is that it's measured with the vehicle in pre-production, stripped of weight etc etc. Take a brand new one, load it up with a 3.5t TB-Class trailer up it's arse and watch it spew carcinogens all over the planet. The poxy POS can't get up to RPM so ends up in ECU trap, can't rev so won't open the injectors beyond a set point so sits at overfuelled belching pollution and going nowhere...

Interesting article regarding tow ratings on utes. Aussie article but still applicable here.
https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...vpCyIe-8x2lR7M

Originally Posted by cambo

Interesting article regarding tow ratings on utes. Aussie article but still applicable here.
https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...vpCyIe-8x2lR7M

For stability I like to keep more weight in the tow vehicle and less in the trailer. Seems to avoid getting pushed and pulled around.

huh
I got a trailer to keep the sand n dirt out of the front seat...

each to their own





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