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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharki View Post
    Drain tank
    Chuck new diesel in, Crack fuel line on delivery side of fuel filter
    Use hand primer pump to pump through, like 1000 pumps later, SEE IF DIESEL IS COMING THROUGH, easy way to tell pis by smell, and diesel leaves an oily residue when rubbed between fingers, Petrol evaporates clean, way to tell also if u put 2 stroke oil in or not for a 2stroke engine, tighten fuel line
    Start up , see how she goes
    U should be fine
    DO NOT CRACK FUEL LINE AT INJECTOR , THE PRESSURE ON COMMON RAIL WILL CUT U TO FK
    Does the system hold pressure between the injectors and the pump indefinitely? Not pressure up prior to starting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by norsk View Post
    Does the system hold pressure between the injectors and the pump indefinitely? Not pressure up prior to starting?
    Nope, engine stop is achieved by the fuel pressure modulation valve (what us not-Bosch mortals call a suction control valve) going to full open and dumping rail pressure back to the tank... This was the critter that stuffed my Ranger up - it was not opening correctly to release pressure off the common rail so that when you hit the top of a hill and throttle off, the common rail pressure was being told to drop back by the ECU (modulation valve commanded to open) but the valve wasn't opening - meaning the commanded pressure and actual pressure were different enough to trigger a limp mode alarm (fuel pressure out of specification).

    The vehicle didn't have the usual symptoms of fuel injection failure (the issue I had was too much common rail pressure), which made us look a lot further into it spending a lot of time with a datalogger. Biggest issue is with the datalogger on, it played ball and behaved. Take the datalogger off, and it would trip an alarm and go into limp mode within minutes the stupid Ford thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by No.3 View Post
    stupid Ford
    Fixed it for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg View Post
    Fixed it for you
    A Mazda man hey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by No.3 View Post
    A Mazda man hey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by No.3 View Post
    A Mazda man hey?
    ....isn't the latest Mazda sourced from Isuzu?
    The whole automotive industry is more incestuous than Alabama

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickoli View Post
    ....isn't the latest Mazda sourced from Isuzu?
    The whole automotive industry is more incestuous than Alabama
    Yep that would be correct. I hear the latest Amarok is using the Ranger underpinnings as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickoli View Post
    ....isn't the latest Mazda sourced from Isuzu?
    The whole automotive industry is more incestuous than Alabama
    A bit harsh on ‘bama aren’t you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnwolf View Post
    A bit harsh on ‘bama aren’t you?
    ....insert whatever inbreeding reference you want....or take whatever offence you want....."that don't bother me none"
    FWIW - I've got no ties to anything in the States more than a passing interest; but I do enjoy poking fun at Southern States for inbreeding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickoli View Post
    ....isn't the latest Mazda sourced from Isuzu?
    The whole automotive industry is more incestuous than Alabama
    Yes. Can confirm these 4JJ3 powered Mazdas run on 67% petrol also

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    Quote Originally Posted by No.3 View Post
    Nope, engine stop is achieved by the fuel pressure modulation valve (what us not-Bosch mortals call a suction control valve) going to full open and dumping rail pressure back to the tank... This was the critter that stuffed my Ranger up - it was not opening correctly to release pressure off the common rail so that when you hit the top of a hill and throttle off, the common rail pressure was being told to drop back by the ECU (modulation valve commanded to open) but the valve wasn't opening - meaning the commanded pressure and actual pressure were different enough to trigger a limp mode alarm (fuel pressure out of specification).

    The vehicle didn't have the usual symptoms of fuel injection failure (the issue I had was too much common rail pressure), which made us look a lot further into it spending a lot of time with a datalogger. Biggest issue is with the datalogger on, it played ball and behaved. Take the datalogger off, and it would trip an alarm and go into limp mode within minutes the stupid Ford thing...
    Yeah I didn't think the rail being pressurised all the time sounded right.
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