Prados

After my little misadventure drowning my old prado crossing a flooded road the good buggers at AMI came through and accepted my claim, but its looking like a potential write off. if it is written off Im keen for another 120 prado.
I was wanting to know if anyone has experience with the 4l v6 ones compared to diesels?
Are the petrol ones outrageously more thirsty? Because they are a bit cheaper to buy.
Our current one is a diesel and knowing what I know now the modern diesels are more expensive to maintain plus the RUCs are a pain in the butt.
Just want to compare our options because it'll be our family troop carrier and maybe my hunting wagon if I need to sell my hilux

That deep and its a write off???
Toyota should hang their head in shame.

if carpets get wet they can get a bit cranky. Wiring electronics etc. ,makes a bit of a mockery of what they used to be designed to do

Yes they like petrol.

I know for for a fact its a new conrod because I spent a couple of hours and checked after the vehicle had a mouthful of water. Then decided to try ami because I figured the the excess is cheaper than the parts. Im hoping its not written off. Will find out in a few days or so after they assess the damage

What year is it?

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Originally Posted by Jhon

What year is it?

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2007 with a 1kd...

I had a 120 Prado V6 4.0 for 6 years as a company car, in Aus.

We travelled all over WA, NT, SA and Tassie in that truck, often driving across the Nullabor towing a camper. We went properly outback in it, some epic trips.

The average fuel consumption over ~200,000km was 16L/100km. Roof bars, beacon, UHF antennas, bull bar.

The other guys mostly had the 1KD diesels in theirs. I had access to all the fleet data, and because I’m a bit of a truck nerd I kept an eye on the diesel consumption because I was always curious to know the difference. The diesels ran between 11-12L/100km. They were driven pretty hard.

Now, I had a company fuel card, so consumption wasn’t an issue. But looking at the price of petrol vs diesel, I wouldn’t hesitate to buy the petrol. It was the best truck I’ve ever had in my life. Utterly reliable, powerful, smooth, effortless. Loved it.

Shortly petrol will be on RUC so the cost difference and pain in the butt factor will get closer...

If they write it off you could look to buy it back off them and swap the engine out with a reman or a wrecker part? Depends if you can get it with the plates still live - i.e. flooded write off vs engine damage due to water ingestion. If AMI goes the first reason, it's stuffed and not worth trying to get it back on the live rego list. If the latter, they may be happy to sell it back to you with the rego still live, or reach a money deal to pay you out for the damage and retaining the vehicle.

A good mate of mine has a 120 series with the V6, it's very quiet and smooth to drive, heaps of power and the fuel use is proportional to driving style.
It's thirsty when towing for sure, but your not swinging into every servo you see.

Shortly petrol will be on RUC so the cost difference and pain in the butt factor will get closer... So @No.3, what makes you think the govt is going to remove road tax component of petrol tax and change to RUC ?

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Shortly petrol will be on RUC so the cost difference and pain in the butt factor will get closer... So @No.3, what makes you think the govt is going to remove road tax component of petrol tax and change to RUC ?

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https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/04/26/r...-mean-for-you/

This would make boat owners very happy (if they remove the excise tax off the raw product )

Iv had 3 nissan patrols in the last 40yrs.Water has been up to the door handles or touching bottom of wing mirrors driving thru rivers.Two with snorkles,one with out.None leaking,drowned or written off.Prados need to learn to hold their breath better in water.

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Shortly petrol will be on RUC so the cost difference and pain in the butt factor will get closer... So @No.3, what makes you think the govt is going to remove road tax component of petrol tax and change to RUC ?

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Stated aim of the current coalition? It's part of the transport agreement they reached as I understand it. One of the reasons for it is that now PHEV vehicles are now getting doubled tapped requiring RUC for the battery component of the vehicle but also getting stung for the petrol RUC component. Whereas things like non-P HEV's are now a LOT cheaper to run than the PHEV's!

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Originally Posted by Deanohit

A good mate of mine has a 120 series with the V6, it's very quiet and smooth to drive, heaps of power and the fuel use is proportional to driving style.
It's thirsty when towing for sure, but your not swinging into every servo you see.

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So petrol isnt a deal breaker by the looks. We only tow long distances once or twice a year for camping trips and small towing trips into town and back but primarily carting the kids around and going away. Maybe I will have to sell the old hilux and get the wife a runabout for the day to day operations and short trips into town if i go down the petrol route

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Originally Posted by Trout

Iv had 3 nissan patrols in the last 40yrs.Water has been up to the door handles or touching bottom of wing mirrors driving thru rivers.Two with snorkles,one with out.None leaking,drowned or written off.Prados need to learn to hold their breath better in water.

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Yea I suspect having the intake in the wheel arch isnt the best design. And the chamber in the road which dipped the drivers side down for a bit didnt help too haha

Might have had something in the drain flap in the bottom of the air filter housing too, it literally only requires a teaspoon or two of water to bust crap up in these modern diesels. Mate's ex drowned a fairly new ranger in flooding, was trying to rescue some animals and got told it will be right these things are good for 700mm. That one wasn't so it isn't just a Prado thing, could be a bit of luck of the draw sometimes.

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That deep and its a write off???
Toyota should hang their head in shame.

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Yeh some of the adverts you see on tv really seem to overstate the capabilities a bit.

Hmm I thort a ranger would handle 700mms of water quietly.

Yeah, but nah not in this case. I don't know any more but I would put forward the guess that the pilot might not have used the correct techniques just quietly. The mate wasn't that flattering when describing her driving ability and suggested that she would have been better off staying in the mall carpark with some pet food and just waited for the things to get hungry.

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Shortly petrol will be on RUC so the cost difference and pain in the butt factor will get closer...

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You'd think that'd favour the thirstier petrol vehicles?

The Mrs has a 2003 model 4l petrol. A bit thirsty but very nice to drive, plenty of power when you need it and has been very reliable.wont be in a hurry to get rid of it. 265kms with no issues

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The Mrs has a 2003 model 4l petrol. A bit thirsty but very nice to drive, plenty of power when you need it and has been very reliable.wont be in a hurry to get rid of it. 265kms with no issues

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Got the same rig, purchased at similar km's get about 12.8l per 100km taking it easy. Have done about 90k since I've owned, apart from servicing I've done one battery and one cv boot. Fairly standard wear components as expected.

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So petrol isnt a deal breaker by the looks. We only tow long distances once or twice a year for camping trips and small towing trips into town and back but primarily carting the kids around and going away. Maybe I will have to sell the old hilux and get the wife a runabout for the day to day operations and short trips into town if i go down the petrol route

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I have a 2008 VX V6 with 320,000k....and am very happy with it. Can run on either 91 or 95 as the computer will adjust accordingly.
I tow and go off road. (Have fitted snorkle, 2 inch lift and diff breathers...
The official fuel use is 14.2L/100k and I get 12 on the open road (not towing)...179KW so good overtaking power...
Hope this helps.